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      The ironic thing is that the Chinese social credit system doesn’t even incorporate your internet history. It’s mainly your financial history, you know, almost as if it was intended to be a financial credit score system and not something supposedly straight out of 1984.

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          Damn, Good on Foreign Policy for calling this out, don’t normally expect a mainstream Western media outlet (is FP considered mainstream) to call bullshit on anti-China propaganda!

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            “Chinese Orwellian social credit score isn’t real”

            More like “Chinese social credit score isn’t significantly more Orwellian than American credit scores”

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              All capitalist economic systems are pretty Orwellian (ironic isn’t it? Since 1984 was meant to denounce socialism). The difference is that only a few countries are actively trying to eliminate capitalism and the rest are trying to make it more powerful.

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                🤣 that reminds me of this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G_p5Yi9Q3TE

                It’s a YouTube doctor explaining why his family escaped Russia.

                1. It was the political corruption. Money runs the world in Russia. Bribery was rampant, especially within the government. The economy was literally up for grabs by the oligarchs there. Certain individuals gained huge economic power, while the majority of people lived paycheck to paycheck, or even unable to make ends meet and were starving. ** Cut to archive footage of a homeless guy in Russia 1993, “I find my food in the rubbish bins he says, why was I even born” **

                You know how many thousands of Americans post every day on Reddit “why was I even born?” And “I would never bring a child into this world, that would be cruel!”

                It goes on to talk about crumbling schools, lack of healthcare. I’m like “sounds exactly like how I grew up in America” and the hellscape we live in today.

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                I downvoted because 1984 is not a critique of socialism: it’s a critique of state power. Orwell himself was an anti-authoritarian communist who fought in the spanish revolution in the POUM militia.

                If you haven’t read 1984 i recommend you read it again, it’s certainly not counter-revolutionary propaganda. Although at the time it certainly metaphorically highlighted some wrongdoings of USSR and other pretend-popular states, nowadays much of the book would apply to the global north as well.

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                  Agree, Orwell was a convinced and active communist. All his novels denounce the powers of the state and the betrayal of capitalism to communist societies (Animal Farm).