Yeah that’s what everybody was telling when I lived in Latvia. Both dictatorship systems are horrible. That doesn’t make of liberal capitalism à la Friedman any less despicable either
Yup the Baltics in particular suffered a lot under soviets. I’m from a town in Lithuania that was basically ethnically cleansed by sending pretty much anyone with education (e.g. my great grandparents) to Siberia with a fucking bag of onions at best and stealing all of our resources; then importing a bunch of russian citizens to take over the area by sheer majority. Ruskies wanted ethnic majority for stable and loyal port cities. Same thing happened with Riga and to a slightly lesser extent with Tallinn.
Real world is not an anime Goku; How can you measure crimes against humanity and compare which one is worse? By sheer numbers? Commies win by a huge margin. Brutality? How do you even measure that?
Everything is relative and we can agree that both soviets and german nazi’s were awful just differently exposed around the world. In asia people had never even heard of Nazis yet everyone knows of the horrors of Pol Pot or even Japan’s imperialist states. So are nazis worse here too?
I have never experienced oppression by so called communist states but I have talked to many people who have lived under so called communist governments and they had mixed feelings. They were pretty terrible, but not the same as full fascist states. Just my experience.
they had mixed feelings. They were pretty terrible, but not the same as full fascist states. Just my experience.
I think this can be attributed to survivor’s bias. There are very few soviet critics because they were killed or immigrated and honestly the ex-soviet states had a rough time recovering.
Yeah that’s what everybody was telling when I lived in Latvia. Both dictatorship systems are horrible. That doesn’t make of liberal capitalism à la Friedman any less despicable either
Yup the Baltics in particular suffered a lot under soviets. I’m from a town in Lithuania that was basically ethnically cleansed by sending pretty much anyone with education (e.g. my great grandparents) to Siberia with a fucking bag of onions at best and stealing all of our resources; then importing a bunch of russian citizens to take over the area by sheer majority. Ruskies wanted ethnic majority for stable and loyal port cities. Same thing happened with Riga and to a slightly lesser extent with Tallinn.
I am sorry but how the fuck could you ever believe that communists are worse than nazis.
By actually living under communist oppression?
yeah I get that it’s a thing, but I don’t see how that would be worse than the nazis.
Real world is not an anime Goku; How can you measure crimes against humanity and compare which one is worse? By sheer numbers? Commies win by a huge margin. Brutality? How do you even measure that?
Everything is relative and we can agree that both soviets and german nazi’s were awful just differently exposed around the world. In asia people had never even heard of Nazis yet everyone knows of the horrors of Pol Pot or even Japan’s imperialist states. So are nazis worse here too?
I am sorry we got into this argument I don’t think I want to continue.
See this as a win if you want, I think we are talking past each other.
sure, seems like you’re clearly not ready to discuss this as it offends your preferred camp of political ideology 🤷 Take care.
No I am not offended but atm unable to say what I am trying to say.
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I have never experienced oppression by so called communist states but I have talked to many people who have lived under so called communist governments and they had mixed feelings. They were pretty terrible, but not the same as full fascist states. Just my experience.
I think this can be attributed to survivor’s bias. There are very few soviet critics because they were killed or immigrated and honestly the ex-soviet states had a rough time recovering.