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      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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        Bruh, US overthrew a democratically elected government in Ukraine, funded and trained literal fascists there, and is now trying to start WW3, but yeah BoTh SiDeS aRe BaD.

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          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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            This is funny because you can apply the same logic here with Luhansk and Donetsk but you don’t.

            You could only apply the same logic if you completely ignore reality and history. Here’s what Jacobin, a western publication has to say about the events of 2014, so maybe stop trying to rewrite history here https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea

            Svoboda and Right Sector? Or are you talking about the current government of Ukraine?

            Current government in Ukraine is full of extremists an has even integrated Azov battalion, who are unapologetic nazis, into their regular military.

            Sure, ironically if you typically invade a country like what Russia did, you are going to spur some serious nationalism and embolden those elements.

            [citation needed]

            I’m not going to disagree that the US had trained people who are part of the parties previously mentioned and I am not exactly supportive of this as well.

            Stop trying to rewrite history. Russia has never been the main aggressor here, and anybody claiming this is either an utter ignoramus or a liar.

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              • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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                So I guess, have you read the article?

                Have you?

                And you have Russian crusaders that are wanting to return Ukraine back to Russia. Ironically, you could just say that Russia is now a hotbed of white supremacists.

                Ukraine is run by literal Fascists, but yeah ok.

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            it’s kinda obvious that Russia is the main aggressor here.

            Russia has been the main aggressor now since the past 7 years according to Western fake news outlets. 6 below + current gaslighting attempt.

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              • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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                Just going to tell that there are no “boots on the ground” and Crimea’s invasion has a bit different background behind it. It is not like Putin woke up one day and announced “let’s go play boys!” Also, what is this crap about Donetsk and Luhansk having separatists? If they announced their independence after Ukraine cutting off their water supply and all those shenanigans, why does Ukraine have an issue?

                “Providing military equipment to the separatists” is done by USA and NATO countries throughout, and we can discuss Azov Battalion in national military as well.

                You can also discuss about the UN resolution vote against Nazism 2 months ago, and why USA always votes “NO” in that vote since the past 15 years.

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                  • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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                    The one who is bullshitting is not me. Someone attacked Luhansk first, then Russia retaliated. Russia is not the initiator, and has not entered Ukraine territory, according to Ukraine military https://twitter.com/ReutersGMF/status/1496718865560076288

                    Posting Bellingcat is proof of intentional dishonesty, unless you do not know their history and background.

                    Crimea invasion having a different backstory is not vague.

                    Sure, that’s not what I said but go on making stuff up, you’re good at it :)

                    Not even reading rest of your comment. Uneducated and bad faith engagement.

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