This should help us cut down on the trolls. We recommend other instances do the same, because they will likely be targeted also.

I apologize for all their gore-posts as well, no one should have to see that. We’ll try to look for more admins from different time-zones as well to get them faster.

The two other possibilities we have currently as options, are turning on required email verification, and as a last resort, closing signups. I personally would rather not do either, but they are options.

Many thanks to @k_o_t@lemmy.ml and @AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml for banning those trolls.

  • @Zerush
    3•2 years ago

    I’m not talking about trolls, I’m talking about Nazis and these guys with fixed ideas, by definition, are never luminaries, less if they are simple guys and not rich people, the latter almost always only sympathize with fascism, because it is the political orientation that most favors the savage capitalism that favors them.

    For the rest, the waving flags with the svastica tattooed can be seen as follows https://i.imgur.com/kqHNjpv.gif

    • @TheAnonymouseJoker
      3•2 years ago

      You did not need that GIF to tell me the nature of so many people. They are easily identifiable for the most part, so it is not that big of a deal. What we simply need is vigilant and educated users, and Lemmy does have that. Think of the audiences that will never come here permanently – Reddit NSFW users, Gab/Dissenter users, Kik/Omegle/Chaturbate users, /pol/ users (and typical chan users in general).

      The majority of users in any herd are followers, that is how the leader concept works. So them having fixed ideas is again not the main concern. It just creates a sheep army, and they can all be defused in the same capacity they come. You find the origin and understand that so more future shepherds get discouraged, and therefore less sheeps mobilise.

      • @Zerush
        1•2 years ago

        Agree with this, naturally requires vigilance. But these, trolls, spamers and similar fauna, cannot be avoided by adding an email to the registry. Spammers can perhaps be avoided by simply waiting an hour before sending the registration confirmation, since spammers often use temporary emails that expire earlier.

        • @TheAnonymouseJoker
          -2•2 years ago

          Now is not the time for it. Probably after Reddit goes public and crashes into an endless void, when the influx of users come here, after that phase things might change a lot. Lemmy needs to grow and become more significant in the mainstream.

          A platform that forcibly asks for emails or other identifiers is suicide at this stage for a platform that also advocates FOSS, federation, modlog transparency and great civillity. Reddit does not do it, and there is still a lot of meaning to the anonymity they provide, despite being a giant platform.

            • @TheAnonymouseJoker
              -2•2 years ago

              I have not needed to allow Facebook or other 3rd party domains with Reddit, so I am unsure. Same goes with keyloggers. Keylogging and 3rd party tracking is a problem for people who use Chrome without ad blockers. Anyone who uses any half decent adblocker (even ABP) or Firefox does not have these issues.

              • @Zerush
                2•2 years ago

                I use Vivaldi (Chromium) and also don’t have problems with this. But this has nothing to do with the joke that Reddit is anonymous, it’s less anonymous than FB, they are sites which I avoid out of principle and mental hygiene.

                • @TheAnonymouseJoker
                  -3•2 years ago

                  Reddit is less anonymous than Facebook? U WOT M8? I have not seen that being true at all.

                  Reddit does not mandate email, government IDs, phone numbers for account creation, usernames are all anonymous, no photo posting, also allows 3rd party FOSS clients liberally. See what Instagram did to Barinsta.

                  • @Zerush
                    1•2 years ago

                    They don’t need your name to track and identify you. Se tracking tecnics used in Big Tech sites. Only TowerData log everything you post there, using it to profile you,

                    Aso MS, FB uses pixelAPIs, Google geolocations and compare datas from other sites you visit which use Google APIs and analytics, also from Alphabet and NEST, also Google companies. Reddit is the oposit of Lemmy in anonymity. Instagram and WhatsApp naturally have nothing to do with anonymity or privacy, none of the Zuckerbot sites respect this.

                    Look in the Browserleaks and see what Data can be seen by a website if they want and if you don’t use a protection more than ad/trackerblocker. (Datas shown in my case are all wrong or N/D, only true that I live in Spain (if I don’t use a VPN) and don’t use a Touchscreen. But it has needed a lot of settings which a normal user don’t do or not even knows.

                    Anyway it’s better to avoid this sites.