• @sibachian
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    82 years ago

    if lab-grown anything becomes the norm, then we become entirely beholden to capitalists and whatever they decide in the ways of food supply and access. fuck lab-grown.

      • @sibachian
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        -12 years ago

        you don’t have any farmers markets around where you live?

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          • @sibachian
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            22 years ago

            not even seasonal? i live in a very cold place atm, where you can’t grow things most of the year, so in the nearby city (some 40km off) the farmers market is only available between august and september. most people don’t live in cold places though, and most people live in cities, and cities usually always have a few farmer’s markets. i.e. new york supposedly has over 400 farmer’s markets (according to google).

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              • @sibachian
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                32 years ago

                But yeah, you seem to be mostly describing farmer’s market being common in the US. I don’t know about other countries but they are not really a common thing over here in Iceland.

                nah, i used NY as an example, as i assume most users here are american. i’ve never actually been to america, but it seems they do have a huge farmer’s market culture. and while i’ve never been to iceland, it doesn’t strike me as one good for farming; what with the ice. ash. vikings… can’t have a farmer’s market if most goods are pillaged from norway. it’d be more like… a spoils market, where you dump the rotting left-overs from the pillage, like, shark fins.

                but yeah culture is important too. according to my thai friends (i don’t know if it’s universal across the country), their culture dictates no one should even cook their own food, so most homes don’t come with kitchens. it’s all about the street foods; and they have no distinction of vegetarianism, veganism, etc. so buyers beware when they label something ‘vegan’ at the food stops. they do have plenty of farmer’s markets though, and as a patron to those markets while living there, especially since there’s no hygiene requirements for their street restaurants, i did end up buying an electric kitchen to cook my own food.

                but yeah, i’ve lived in other asian and european countries, and farmer’s markets are pretty common place. food is universal, and farming likewise, so it would be a bit odd for there not to be farmers markets. iceland is an exception of course. vikings hellbent on making a sheet of ice habitable is as good an excuse as any!

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                  • @sibachian
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                    12 years ago

                    suuuure, that’s what you want us to believe. so we’ll blame the next viking raid on british pirates!

                    but yeah, makes sense. wish i too could exist on a depopulated island nation far away from the rest of humanity.

    • @morrowind
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      42 years ago

      I don’t think this is much of a problem. As @sexy_peach points out, there’s no virtually no change, and worst case, there’s always the vegetarian world.

      • @sibachian
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        32 years ago

        I usually shop food at farmers market’s wherever I go in the world. Sellers run out of their fresh produce pretty quickly though, so they’re usually not open more than once or twice a day. I don’t know the statistics, but I don’t think it’s correct to say most people shop in supermarkets; considering the availability of farmers markets and how fast they run out of supply. Higher quality fresh produce at lower prices, vs shopping at a third party distributor like a supermarket? Why would anyone willingly choose that given the options?

        Sure, if you live in an industrial small town, there’s probably no farmers market available (I assume, because there’s no farmland or farmers nearby); but most people in the world don’t live in such places, and indeed, most cities do have farmers markets.

    • @WuxinGoat
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      22 years ago

      this is a very good point, I’ve not thought of it this way before.