I know people prefer to complain instead of act, but what is something people don’t like but has an alternative?

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    1 year ago

    apple hates open standards

    What about WhatsApp is open?

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      1 year ago

      I think they are maybe referring to Apple’s reluctance to integrate with RCS.

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        1 year ago

        Not an unfair complaint against Apple, but ignores Google’s/Android’s problematic “support” for RCS, and in this context of this comment seems to imply that What’sApp isn’t “closed” like iMessage.

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          Yeah, that’s true. Pretty much every messenger has that issue, Signal, Telegram, etc. Ideally there would be an open standard like email, SMS and you could choose your preferred app and have cross messaging and group chats.

          RIM made a similar play when they kept BBM closed to their phones and it backfired but Apple seem to have the opposite effect from keeping it all in house.

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            1 year ago

            I’m certainly not trying to be an Apple apologist here, as iMessage has plenty to critique. But it bears consideration that iMessage falling back to SMS is a certain amount of openness, is it not?

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              Yeah, they are both essentially doing the same thing (iMessage and RCS using Google messages app), default to proprietary message, SMS back up.

              Maybe the telecoms industry needs to get involved with moving on the standard. Although, when the created MMS it was (and still is) priced out of being useable.

              Back when WhatsApp charged an annual fee you could get a 1 year subscription for about the same cost as 1 MMS picture message

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              Yeah, they are both essentially doing the same thing (iMessage and RCS using Google messages app), default to proprietary message, SMS back up.

              Maybe the telecoms industry needs to get involved with moving on the standard. Although, when the created MMS it was (and still is) priced out of being useable.

              Back when WhatsApp charged an annual fee you could get a 1 year subscription for about the same cost as 1 MMS picture message

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          1 year ago

          A lot of reading there, I’ll be honest, I cherry picked a few bits.

          It is for the most part not the best but I still use it for sending uncompressed images. If you use the Google messages SMS app it does offer a bit more. I still think they should get a bit of Kudos for trying but at the same time. The iterative death, rebrand and rebirth of Google messaging platforms has been terrible. Allo was the worst in my opinion.