Lithuania supporting separatists in HK, TW and following the US rhetoric on everything, not really a surprise that the PRC side has run out of patience when dealing with western puppet states.
yeah a reap what you sow moment there
I don’t agree with that interpretation of sovereignity, those states exist for 30 years and are recognized by most other countries and btw i don’t think there is need for a country to even be internationally recognized, especially by some agreement in order to be a country. Not to mention there is no questioning of it anyway. Even Russia is not challenging Ukraine sovereignity as a whole. Also Crimea is not Ukrainian since 2014 not because Khrushchev decision was illegitimate but because people of Crimea decided they don’t want to be in Ukraine.
This was huge L for a diplomat, especially Chinese considered their international politics and hugely successful diplomacy recently.
What he should mean and tell is those countries aren’t and never were sovereign because they are just USA puppets.
That said, cope and seethe, Stupidity Belt, your shitty nazi holes shouldn’t exist in the first place.
What he should mean and tell is those countries aren’t and never were sovereign because they are just USA puppets.
maybe this is what he meant, assuming the translation is correct
He was speaking in French, which is pretty easy to translate to english so i doubt it can be this much different.
The original is “status quo,” but it translates to sovereignty
based on this clip from the interview, Western media is definitely “missing” (deliberately) the point here
This clip is only about Crimea, and in that context the meaning is different, as it’s about whether it is Russian or Ukrainian, since it is contested. no one did any attacks on baltic chihuauas. And yet again, international law have nothing to do with it, west can play the charade about “not recognizing the annexation fo Crimea” but ultimately it did happened and they can either admit it, ceas all relations with Russia or pretend Crimea don’t exist and forbid anyone from their countries to even look at it.
Then again, western diplomacy is worth shit considering for example US duplicity against One China policy or EU lying in case of Minsk agreement. China finally moved to the only language they really listen to: power.
Isn’t that interview the origin of the Politico article, though? I haven’t seen the full interview, but unless he was more explicit in some other part of the interview, Politico just seems to have taken that clip and removed the context
Idk, it’s clearly cut.
right, but the clip linked in the article is basically the same thing, they just removed a few dozen seconds
“It is strange to hear an absurd version of the ‘history of Crimea’ from a representative of a country that is scrupulous about its thousand-year history,” Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s office, said in a tweet on Sunday.
Seems like putting things into a longer historical perspective is exactly what one would expect ‘of a country that is scrupulous about its thousand-year history’.
What Lu Shaye said about Crimea or the Baltic States isn’t much different to what is sometimes said of Taiwan or Tibet or Manchuria.There is a criticism to be made of Lu Shaye’s comments, but this isn’t it, Podolyak. Unfortunately, international law is a strange creature, so Lu Shaye could technically be right, but it’d always be open to interpretation.The row comes ahead of a meeting of EU foreign ministers in Luxembourg on Monday, where relations with China are on the agenda.
😯 What fortuitous timing!
Edit: the reported story twists the facts.
He said plain and boring truth and the ultra nationalist were hurt because it somehow doesn’t intuitively go into their direction while if they had 2 neurons they could use it at their advantage to push even more anti-soviet and nationalist rhetoric by stressing that they have to affirm their autonomy more and more
is this more about that the national status of these countries was not formally legtimized in international law? and if so, by what criteria? i agree with @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml about international recognition. the need to be internationally recognized is useless and dismisses the sovereignty of, say, colonized peoples declaring their autonomy from their encircling state.
It seems like western media is taking the comment out of context as usual. Here’s the actual conversation.
There is a contrast between what international law explicitly says and what the obvious reality is (ie. the post-Soviet states are no longer part of the Soviet Union). His point is that law isn’t the magical answer to everything. Notice how the ambassador was the one saying how Crimea’s status “depends” and how there’s a “story”, while the interviewer was the one who ignored everything else and treated the law and law only as the ultimate truth.
Western media deliberately ignoring context and lying by omission to own the tankies
a story as old as time
I saw the video this afternoon, too, and thought I’d amend my previous comment. When Lu Shaye criticises the interviewer’s framing, the interviewer doubles down. But we’ve now all been told that it was Lu Shaye pushing the dodgy narrative. What a bunch of truthtwisters.
Very bold for a Chinese diplomat.
I like the new and assertive China
China has clarified that it respects the sovereign of these states: https://archive.is/rywz0
edit: Improved link
Asked if China recognises Ukraine as a sovereign state, Mao said China’s position on this issue is objective and fair. …
“The country you mentioned is a full member of the United Nations.”
Tomorrow’s press: “Mao recognises China’s sovereignty but not Ukraine’s.”
He’s right though
国小而不处卑，力少而不畏强，无礼而侮大邻，贪愎而拙交者，可亡也 ———韩非(280B.C-233B.C)
