I mean even Michael Parenti said China is capitalist in 1998. In 2023 we can clearly say it’s not the case but it was definitely looking very suspicious in the 90’s.
That said, most of western maoists are by no means Parenti who himself admitted being led astray by the western narrations in some cases. They are just petty bourgeoise posers who actually follows their own class interests by aligning with imperialism, even if unconsciously.
Deng made a huge leap of faith into the future. If the next generations failed, we would all be now calling him a next Gorbachev, regardless of his real intentions.
Communism was in a precarious state post-USSR. It makes sense that past analysts even from people like Parenti don’t hold up well in hindsight. The entire communist movement was in the unfortunate position of having to make concessions to capital.
That’s pretty irrelevant in that discussion. I also don’t think everything he ever wrote and said needs to be cancelled because of it, even if that’s true.
is not an authoritative theorist
Agree, good that i never said that. What he is though, is influental and popular debunker of bourgeois myths and popularisator of basic marxist theory. And as such literally everyone here already heard of him and most likely read some of his books or articles - the most popular being “Blackshirts and Reds” which is where he made that conclusion about China. Which furthermore looks entirely like glossing over the topic in literally one sentence precisely because being misled by the US information bubble.
idk why everyone is beating ur ass omg parenti has big problems in his scholarship in some of his books!!! he’s better than chomsky but his popularity and influence is really not an indication he’s authoritative he’s just a nice writer and beloved
I mean even Michael Parenti said China is capitalist in 1998. In 2023 we can clearly say it’s not the case but it was definitely looking very suspicious in the 90’s.
That said, most of western maoists are by no means Parenti who himself admitted being led astray by the western narrations in some cases. They are just petty bourgeoise posers who actually follows their own class interests by aligning with imperialism, even if unconsciously.
Deng made a huge leap of faith into the future. If the next generations failed, we would all be now calling him a next Gorbachev, regardless of his real intentions.
Communism was in a precarious state post-USSR. It makes sense that past analysts even from people like Parenti don’t hold up well in hindsight. The entire communist movement was in the unfortunate position of having to make concessions to capital.
Yes i know. 90’s were terrible for every AES and reqired hard moves to survive, interestingly enough they all survived and defended their socialism.
Michael Parenti is also for U.S. patriotism.
Michael Parenti is not an authoritative theorist; stop treating him as one.
That’s pretty irrelevant in that discussion. I also don’t think everything he ever wrote and said needs to be cancelled because of it, even if that’s true.
Agree, good that i never said that. What he is though, is influental and popular debunker of bourgeois myths and popularisator of basic marxist theory. And as such literally everyone here already heard of him and most likely read some of his books or articles - the most popular being “Blackshirts and Reds” which is where he made that conclusion about China. Which furthermore looks entirely like glossing over the topic in literally one sentence precisely because being misled by the US information bubble.
“Influential”
Which means nothing
“popular”
also means nothing
Weird hill to die but ok.
The foundation of your response is kinda wrong
Keep it civil, both of you please.
alright
idk why everyone is beating ur ass omg parenti has big problems in his scholarship in some of his books!!! he’s better than chomsky but his popularity and influence is really not an indication he’s authoritative he’s just a nice writer and beloved
Yeah, like the one about Roman history.