My stake in all cryptocurrency is $0.

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    Self governing would lead to the same or worse problems than we have now. Right now the government (it’s not a good government, don’t get me wrong) can decide to print more money. In the hypothetical future, the community of a crypto asset can govern it, in the community those who have most of the mining power, most coins or whatever have most power. How does this not lead further away from a democratic election of a government like a democracy has today?

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      Because a token or crypto project is only worth anything if people value it. And that is ultimately the voting mechanism. If Bob creates a currency that only a few very wealth people have access to and Alice creates a currency which is airdropped to everyone on earth, which one will have a higher market cap? I would wager Alice. The details of how individuals projects are governed are not as important if the projects themselves have to compete for people’s mind share. States that govern physical land have no or little competition. No fundamental new system of governance can co-exist with the old. But Crypto allows us to have a completive market for governance itself, although what is governs only has value if the majority of people think it does.

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        Because a token or crypto project is only worth anything if people value it. And that is ultimately the voting mechanism.

        Oh no what if they have a monopoly? Imagine if store ONLY had paypal. That would be terrible.

        But Crypto allows us to have a completive market for governance itself, although what is governs only has value if the majority of people think it does.

        I don’t think that markets lead to good outcomes in all situations. I think they are suitable for some problems and not suitable for others. I don’t think they are suitable to solve problems with currency at all.

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          Oh no what if they have a monopoly? Imagine if store ONLY had paypal. That would be terrible.

          Yes, it would be terrible. But fortunately, it is fairly hard to meaningful censor many blockchains. Bitcoin and Nakamoto consensus was created to route around the finical systems monopoly. I think there is fundamentally no chance of a crypto becoming an absolute monopoly since it would have to compete with other cryptos.

          don’t think they are suitable to solve problems with currency at all.

          Without using the word market, I would say that I think anyone and their friends should have the freedom to create and experiment with their own finical systems if them want. And no one should force them to use a finical system they don’t want.

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            Without using the word market, I would say that I think anyone and their friends should have the freedom to create and experiment with their own finical systems if them want. And no one should force them to use a finical system they don’t want.

            Never did I say that I am against that. But these systems should be taxable if necessary etc.

            Yes, it would be terrible. But fortunately, it is fairly hard to meaningful censor many blockchains. Bitcoin and Nakamoto consensus was created to route around the finical systems monopoly. I think there is fundamentally no chance of a crypto becoming an absolute monopoly since it would have to compete with other cryptos.

            I don’t really understand what you are trying to say. What do you mean by absolute monopoly?

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              Why would anyone advocate for nation-state taxation? It is a centralized monopoly of violence.

              Decentralized communities have demonstrated time and again that taxation can be programatic and voluntary. Decentralized communities have also demonstrated governance in ways that dismiss the need for taxation.

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              Never did I say that I am against that. But these systems should be taxable if necessary etc.

              Sure, I think some tax systems such as the harbinger tax could be much easier to implement with a blockchain based system.

              I don’t really understand what you are trying to say. What do you mean by absolute monopoly?

              yes “absolute monopoly” was not a good choice of words. What I mean is a monopoly enforced through coercion.