He basically conceded a huge PR victory to Trump by going to Ukraine instead
Yeah, Trump going to East Palestine to hand out water and burgers to people while Biden prances around Kiev is pretty terrible optics for the democrats. I expect that republicans will win by a landslide in 2024. Public opinion is already shifting against the war in US, and soon it’s going to be impossible to pretend that the war is not an absolute debacle. The economy keeps getting worse, and people are starting to connect the dots.
How does that even work? In Poland we have the same schemate (and it’s propably in most libdems too), even if thankfully not the same event.
Conservatives, regardless if in power or not, spare no effort in ratfucking succdems and libs. But libs and succdems also regardless of when in power or not, treat conservatives and other libs with kiddie gloves, seemingly beliving in the “responsible opposition” nonsense.
For example when exception happened and one PO guy low key thwarted PiS attempt at embezzling huge cash from the state, PiS treats this as mortal insult and that PO guy is their official enemy number 1 (fortunately for him it’s official because unofficial enemies of PiS tend to “commit suicide”).
Again, how does that work, both libs and succdems aren’t naive people, they scheme and ratfuck people on daily basis and their eyes lit on the mere thoughts of power, but all that disappears when facing anyone right of them and they routinely commit huge and easily avoidable political blunders.
I think the real answer is that this is just puppet theatre for the hoi polloi. Both parties represent the interests of the class that holds power, which is the capital owning class. There is no fundamental disagreement between the parties because there is no fundamental disagreement between people who fund and promote them.
While there can’t be a disagreement on the core economic policy, there can be difference in branding around social issues. Conservatives are marketed to voters who hate social progress, while liberals are marketed to people who think there should be more social freedoms. Conservative brand is to be tough and aggressive, while liberal brand is to be civil and reasonable.
The end result we get is the ratchet effect. Conservatives pass the measures that are controversial with the liberal base, while liberals ensure that things don’t slide back.
This is like the Dem version of the G. W. Bush response to hurricane Katrina stuff. But even Bush at least had Air Force 1 do a few “observation” circles above New Orleans. So while I can get why the more long running stuff with Ukraine and Russia required lots of secret planning to make happen (and obviously was going to happen at some point). It really shows how little major home front issues matter in the larger picture to libs/Dems/Biden.
Joe Biden doesn’t care about poor people.
Pseudoleft dems on reddit are doing everything they can to ignore it while still using their usual excuse of “at least dems care about the people in usa” when presented with yet another case of dems warmongering.
Also it kinda remind me of the standard hitlerite whitewashing slogan, “at least nazis cared for Germans”.
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Damn. At least W decided to fly over Katrina lol. Biden can’t even visit the people affected by of the fucking catastrophic tragedy that he was pretty much complicit in by crushing a rail strike over Christmas.
Seriously, in 2 years libs are gonna try and convince everyone to vote for him again because he’s “compassionate” or some shit.
These criticisms of Biden not visiting East Palestine are misinformed at best. A presidential visit is a strain on a city’s resources in the best of times due to security needs. The city’s government has to stay laser focused on the emergency situation. The president can far better serve them from afar by making sure local officials have access to resources than the president can do by staging some stupid photo op.
I just waited for your comment and it’s even funnier than i thought, i would never thought you would actually admit that for the US President Ukraine is safe, but Ohio is not XD
Ukraine was only safe because they gave Russia a heads up that Biden was visiting. The last thing Russia wants is to risk killing the US president and incurring the unrestrained wrath of the US.
Well they pretend its a wartorn hell everywhere in UA in media so something does not click.
Also, what does he fear in Ohio more than in country literally in war? Do he fear the toxic cloud, the very same that his govt ignore while telling people it’s safe to get back to homes, drink water etc? Surely not, they said it’s safe! Then maybe he fear someone there currently hates govt a little bit too much and might get some funny idea to greet him with his second amendment tool? Why even, everything is fine and safe there, nothing to look for, there’s no toxic cloud, animals arent dying en masse?
Maybe Bibi would be angry if he read “Biden visits East Palestine”?
Then maybe he fear someone there currently hates govt a little bit too much and might get some funny idea to greet him with his second amendment tool?
Yes, and it’s weird to phrase it as “his second amendment tool” if you know much about Biden. Biden has quite consistently been very pro-gun control. He’s shown that he doesn’t much care for the Second Amendment.
Gun. I meant someone there looking how the Biden govt is trying to kill them would maybe want to respond in kind? Also don’t deflect, answer me, why East Palestine is more dangerous than Ukraine?
East Palestine is not more dangerous than Ukraine. That’s not the problem at all. It’s that providing security is a burden. Ukraine evidently felt it could shoulder that burden, provided there was communication with Russia not to bomb any of the areas Biden was traveling in. East Palestine is a disaster area. I would assume Ukraine has figured out how to avoid having high value targets not get shot, since Zelensky has survived assassination attempts. It cannot and should not shoulder the burden of a presidential trip.
This is all standard operating procedure for a disaster. I live in an area that is at high risk for earthquakes and have been working with a volunteer group that collaborates with local governments on preparedness. We would not be interested in a presidential photo op in the wake of a disaster. Send us supplies, send us help, don’t send us politicians.
That’s not the problem at all. It’s that providing security is a burden.
If that’s not the problem, why he didn’t go there? “Burden” sounds like a problem. US president cannot visit the town in USA because security problem, however you try to wriggle from it.
Ukraine evidently felt it could shoulder that burden
But USA can’t, even being umpteenth times richer?
It cannot and should not shoulder the burden of a presidential trip.
Why is that? Surely the government could shoulder it, i mean in every single country i seen being stricken with disaster, offcials, including head of state are always in the place pretty fast. But you’re stepping around the landmine here. What disaster? It is supposedly safe to live there. Therefore what burden and why would Biden even visits here in the first place? Mere act of visiting would mean govt is acknowledging the disaster and this means they would have to do something - which they are exceptionally unwilling to do.
It completely blows up my mind how you, as an American, can see at that entire situation and defend the administration which is not even incompetent, but which played actively malicious role from smashing the railway strike to refusal to take any action in the face of disaster and even endangering people’s lives by lying about it - all while spending millions to shoot down random balloons and billions for their proxy war.
We would not be interested in a presidential photo op in the wake of a disaster. Send us supplies, send us help, don’t send us politicians.
They did not get help either. They did get lies about toxic cloud being perfectly safe to live in. In this conditions presidental visit would at least means govt is acknowledging the disaster.
Oh and i noticed one more curious thing:
Ukraine was only safe because they gave Russia a heads up that Biden was visiting.
Again something do not click (maybe not in your post but definitely in propaganda). What you said is pretty accurate, they did asked Russia and therefore felt it was safe, since i think be can both agree that eliminating Biden enroute in train for example would be pretty easy with Russia resources - as the incident with plane alarm clearly indicate. But the western propaganda officially says that Russia and its president are complete maniacs who attacked Ukraine for no reason and cannot be trusted with anything (8,5 years of peace attempts from Russia ignored) and openly endanger NATO countries etc. etc… Anything except USA president’s life, apparently, who is safe in the embrace of Putin but not in the East Palestine. Something fishy is around here, like maybe western media lying about Russia motives all the time?
Yeah biden going would be about as effective as when trump threw paper towels in Puerto Rico.
Could also just not have expensive security and like, stay in a normal hotel and take a normal transport option
The US president gets a lot of assassination attempts. Pretty much every president in the modern era has had at least one attempt, and some several attempts. That’s just not a practical possibility for such a vital job.
Should switch strategy to being less hated…
A lot of the attempts are domestic threats.
Well yeah, those are the people he should try to be liked by. Who else would hate him? The rest of us just hate the country, who they have making speeches is of little consequence.
I doubt there’s anything that Biden can do to be liked by the extreme right wingers that form the greatest domestic threat to him. As for international assassination attempts, there have absolutely been attempts on the president’s life. I noticed many of them come from regions with autocratic governments, so maybe they didn’t full understand that even assassinating the president has little effect on the workings of the overall government?
I don’t blame him, why he should do? He is busy destroying Russia by sending the Ukrainians to the meat grander.
