• @pingveno
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    Then maybe he fear someone there currently hates govt a little bit too much and might get some funny idea to greet him with his second amendment tool?

    Yes, and it’s weird to phrase it as “his second amendment tool” if you know much about Biden. Biden has quite consistently been very pro-gun control. He’s shown that he doesn’t much care for the Second Amendment.

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      Gun. I meant someone there looking how the Biden govt is trying to kill them would maybe want to respond in kind? Also don’t deflect, answer me, why East Palestine is more dangerous than Ukraine?

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        East Palestine is not more dangerous than Ukraine. That’s not the problem at all. It’s that providing security is a burden. Ukraine evidently felt it could shoulder that burden, provided there was communication with Russia not to bomb any of the areas Biden was traveling in. East Palestine is a disaster area. I would assume Ukraine has figured out how to avoid having high value targets not get shot, since Zelensky has survived assassination attempts. It cannot and should not shoulder the burden of a presidential trip.

        This is all standard operating procedure for a disaster. I live in an area that is at high risk for earthquakes and have been working with a volunteer group that collaborates with local governments on preparedness. We would not be interested in a presidential photo op in the wake of a disaster. Send us supplies, send us help, don’t send us politicians.

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          That’s not the problem at all. It’s that providing security is a burden.

          If that’s not the problem, why he didn’t go there? “Burden” sounds like a problem. US president cannot visit the town in USA because security problem, however you try to wriggle from it.

          Ukraine evidently felt it could shoulder that burden

          But USA can’t, even being umpteenth times richer?

          It cannot and should not shoulder the burden of a presidential trip.

          Why is that? Surely the government could shoulder it, i mean in every single country i seen being stricken with disaster, offcials, including head of state are always in the place pretty fast. But you’re stepping around the landmine here. What disaster? It is supposedly safe to live there. Therefore what burden and why would Biden even visits here in the first place? Mere act of visiting would mean govt is acknowledging the disaster and this means they would have to do something - which they are exceptionally unwilling to do.

          It completely blows up my mind how you, as an American, can see at that entire situation and defend the administration which is not even incompetent, but which played actively malicious role from smashing the railway strike to refusal to take any action in the face of disaster and even endangering people’s lives by lying about it - all while spending millions to shoot down random balloons and billions for their proxy war.

          We would not be interested in a presidential photo op in the wake of a disaster. Send us supplies, send us help, don’t send us politicians.

          They did not get help either. They did get lies about toxic cloud being perfectly safe to live in. In this conditions presidental visit would at least means govt is acknowledging the disaster.

          Oh and i noticed one more curious thing:

          Ukraine was only safe because they gave Russia a heads up that Biden was visiting.

          Again something do not click (maybe not in your post but definitely in propaganda). What you said is pretty accurate, they did asked Russia and therefore felt it was safe, since i think be can both agree that eliminating Biden enroute in train for example would be pretty easy with Russia resources - as the incident with plane alarm clearly indicate. But the western propaganda officially says that Russia and its president are complete maniacs who attacked Ukraine for no reason and cannot be trusted with anything (8,5 years of peace attempts from Russia ignored) and openly endanger NATO countries etc. etc… Anything except USA president’s life, apparently, who is safe in the embrace of Putin but not in the East Palestine. Something fishy is around here, like maybe western media lying about Russia motives all the time?