• chad1234@lemmygrad.ml
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    4 years ago

    They are a low energy group which claims you can implement socialism by reforming the Democrats

    A Socialist Alternative councillor of Seattle city council became part of the leadership group of the CHOP/CHAZ protests and they directed the protesters to go home and vote Sleepy Joe

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      You’re right and even if diagnosing them as Trots seems harsh it’s not wrong.

      I’m reading ‘What Is To Be Done’ for the first time & came across this passage (one of many) that highlights the problem quite plainly:

      “However, the Bernsteinian and “critical” trend, to which the majority of the legal Marxists turned, deprived the socialists of this opportunity and demoralised the socialist consciousness by vulgarising Marxism, by advocating the theory of the blunting of social contradictions, by declaring the idea of the social revolution and of the dictatorship of the proletariat to be absurd, by reducing the working-class movement and the class struggle to narrow trade-unionism and to a “realistic” struggle for petty, gradual reforms. This was synonymous with bourgeois democracy’s denial of socialism’s right to independence and, consequently, of its right to existence; in practice it meant a striving to convert the nascent working-class movement into an appendage of the liberals.”

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        What pains me so much is that we don’t learn from history, people just don’t want to examine history in a critical lens in a historical dialectical lens in a material lens and so we get repeats of history which is this pervasive revisionism in the left where any movement loses its revolutionary or class character because it’s coopted by opportunists who seek to curb any revolutionary potential. This ain’t no CIA op folks, to look at it purely like that would be underestimating the true cowardice of some so called socialists. These people would run to the government if the whole of the working people truly organized themselves in a disciplined way, so disciplined that any opportunists would be curbed to the side. It’s funny how these people look at “tankies” and say we steal movements when it’s usually the masses who are the ones who create creative things like the Paris Commune or Soviets. Our job is simply to guide and raise class consciousness but it’s not us who make workers associations or peasants associations, it’s the opportunist who will weaken those mass movements, especially if those masses get too “authoritarian” for their liking. Revolution was never meant to be a picnic or dinner party.

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          That’s right, while the masses are fighting over whether “Joe’s Radical Leftist agenda” (L-O-FUCKING-L) will destroy Murica, accerlationism may be the truly unstoppable force we need, like a hurricane blowing all those who don’t truly have the stomach for revolution aside.

          I would ask, how far does one have to go from defending their fellow in the streets of Portland to participation in revolution?

          I would argue it’s not far at all.