Ok, so I’m gonna get some downvotes from this, but I think of the Anarchists as allies, not as enemies. The longer Marxists and Anarchists bicker about which type of socialism is best, the stronger the bourgeoisie gets. If we want to overthrow the bourgeoisie, Marxists and Anarchists need to band together, not bicker. The true enemy is not the Anarchist. The true enemy is the capitalist.

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    This is supposed to be a rebuttal against “Anarchism and Socialism”

    • What Anarchism means (from a former anarchist’s point of view) No leader, everybody votes, not just representatives.
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      please read the text i linked before you try to counter it

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        Okay, also, why do you consider having the economy planned on a commune level to be inherently “a fantasy”

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          marxism involves a scientific view of history. historically, it doesn’t work. there have been zero successful anarchist projects.

          state & rev will explain why a state is needed. i didn’t link it to be flippant. i linked it because it has answers to your questions.

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            If you read Part 1, you will see that there still is a state. The GPC/GCoL/GLP’s job is to make laws for the whole SWR. However, the economy planning is on a commune level, rather than a global level. The global government might make laws like “All farming co-ops need to be given at least X amount of money”, but in the end it comes down to the commune.

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              i didn’t realize you were referring to planning. planning must be centralized in order to work. basically all parts need to be communicating instead of operating individually. and planning does not involve simply allocating funds.

              co-ops

              commune

              your use of these terms suggests you are still thinking about this from an anarchist’s perspective. take your time reading the works that have been suggested and if you have questions afterwards don’t be afraid to ask

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                  not communes. though some countries’ third level administrative divisions are translated (usually from french) into english as “communes”, the english word “commune” typically refers to a specific type of community, not an administrative division. therefore, words like “district” or “municipality” should be used to describe such divisions as to avoid confusion.

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                    the word “communism” is not derived from the word “commune”.