• Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
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    What about those who don’t think it’s a one man dictatorship, but rather hyperfocuses on war instead of relieving people’s lives? And that everyone is broke and miserable?

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      Ask them what happened to Libya, Somalia, Yugoslavia, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iran, Argentina, Chile, Angola, Sri Lanka, Malaysia, and so many more countries, when they disarmed and trusted the Unites States.

      Or how about the question of how is a country supposed to economically branch out when it was bombed back into the Stone Age, it’s population massacred in a genocide, and it is now forcefully isolated on the world stage by threat is US attack against anyone that violate the sanctions?

      Also the military is becoming less of a focus for the DPRK as the years go by and increasing budget amounts are going towards the civilian sector. The DPRK could have easily continued the Arduous March program to modernize their military and focus on military technology, but they instead chose to pull resources away from the military to fix the citizen ration program to ensure a 1850 calories a day minimum instead of the old 900 calorie minimum. Or how several plans for airfields, submarine pens, and dockyard facilities have been scrapped in favor of apartment buildings, hospitals, and farmland. Not to mention that with the Arduous March program, the military was supposed to remain the main employer in the DPRK, but they have instead expanded heavy civil projects such as office buildings/services, warehousing, transport companies, and various other civil employment for people to choose from.

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      yeah its really fuckin hard talking to libs about korea. people just cant shake off the propaganda that its some backwards country where reason doesn’t exist and there’s brutal state repression. all while never criticising their own country that a lot of the time is actively oppressing them. its very frustrating.

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    Inversion of the meme above: My liberal family members trying to convince me that {insert AES country, usually China or the DPRK} is a brutal, tyrannical dictatorship.

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    unfortunately it’s hard to convince them when they get all of their information about the dprk from capitalist msm

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      Yeah, I know other leftists who have said they have no idea what to think about DPRK, because they know it’s largely lies from the US, but almost nothing else comes out that’s accessible. So without already being a leftist it’s hard to accept believe anything about them.

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        I got in the most frustrating conversation with another “communist” about the DPRK. I didn’t even attempt to say their government was “good” or anything. Just dispelled US talking points and encouraged them to look at things from the perspective of a highly sanctioned country that has a history of being genocided by yankees. Like, that’s a pretty mild statement and even then the hairs were raised on the back of their neck from me even asking them to try and sympathize.

        Just was nothing but moving goal posts and being painted as crazy for… you know… actually having a memory of history and a clue about what I was talking about.

        The propaganda is strong.