Their obsession with free speech and how people thinks society went too far to ban Kanye from twitter after his PRO. NAZI. Media tour makes me SERIOUSLY resent western values.
Liberalism is white supremacy.
…If you are even SLIGHTLY marginalized… Get a means of self defense that puts bigots in the ground.
westerners arent going to stop until there’s a ubi for conservative voices and leftist voices are put on notice for being devisive.
Death to this whole fascistic psycho world.
Also. I know what all this bullshit is about. It is all mass hysteria about trans people. It’s transphobia top to bottom and side to side.
Here’s some free speech for the west. The anticolonial and anti imperialist left trapped in the west who have a platform to be heard by many are transphobic by always lumping social progressivism into the democratic party platform AND… those same leftists low key hope that more stochastic terrorism kills more trans people. I said it and Im not wrong. How is that for free speech?
Liberalism is white supremacy.
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I was about to say yes literally, the more you think about the material analysis of the liberal ideology the more you realise that liberalism is objectively the facade of white supremacy
… I hate the west
Join the club
We have cheese and crackers on wednesdays!
The west has crackers every day, but it’s all crackers all the time to the point that it’s maddening.
Enjoy the drinks, you’ll have fun with fellow homies who also hate the Wes-turds.
Same, comrade.
These backwards views go unchallenged, too. Everyone here just thinks it’s normal.
I agree with much of this–obviously I hate the West and Western fascism plenty–but to say that it all boils down to “mass hysteria about trans people” is a pretty off misdiagnosis.
I would wager most normal people either don’t care about trans people, feel mildly positive or mildly negative about it. That is certainly the case with the majority of normal people I talk to. Only fascists care THAT much. Granted, there are a lot of fascists here, their values are baked into society, but neoliberal Wokeism has also made particularly GSM issues well accepted by a large portion of society. I’m not saying that transphobia isn’t rampant or that people aren’t dying by said stochastic terrorism, only that it is not THE central issue. Trans issues are just a slice of the pie, and there are other issues that occupy bigger slices–IMO racism, war, militarized police state, pro-capitalist/anti-socialist propaganda, just to name a few, but even none of these are “THE” central issue.
I’m also confused by your last paragraph. I see that DankZedong brought it up and you relate it to PatSocs–sure, I can see how PatSocs by and large act about trans issues, I don’t disagree with that. But I don’t see how Western leftists “always lumping social progressivism into the democratic party platform” is related to this. I’m not even sure what exactly you’re trying to say with this sentence.
Here’s some free speech for the west. The anticolonial and anti imperialist left trapped in the west who have a platform to be heard by many are transphobic by always lumping social progressivism into the democratic party platform AND… those same leftists low key hope that more stochastic terrorism kills more trans people. I said it and Im not wrong. How is that for free speech?
What exactly do you mean by this? Serious question as I don’t understand.
I do not mean to speak for comrade DoubleK, but I know they’ve railed against patsocs and their ilk in the past. I think they are talking about figures like Maupin, Haz, Jimmy Dore, and that new fucker with a million subscribers, whatever his name is. The Tucker Carlsons of the “left”. DoubleK has a good point about them dominating narratives, too, as no-name up-and-comers can generate hundreds of thousands of views and followers by coupling “Russia good! Trans bad! China good! Gay bad!” sorta nonsense. It’s more than a little worrying, and the state of the western esp. Amerikan anti-imperialist “left” is sorry as hell.
Yes. This. It’s gone beyond PatSoc horse shit and Im seeing a very noticeable uptick of platforming backwards discussions by leftists calling it “platforming free speech” and “not being afraid to hear out your ‘enemies’”
And it’s fine. It’s really jist okay that stochastic violence is happening to the LGBTQ community because I guess letting that slide will somehow pave peace between the East and west if we just have a global coordinated genocide of queer people? Because that’s what it looks like.
Im over it. Im sick of free speech fetishists ignoring fighting words just because corporate will silence a virulent antisemite to protect their brand.
It’s scary and infuriating for us living here comrade, but I try to remember that in the actual socialist world, the fight for LGBT rights and acceptance is progressing faster than it ever has anywhere else, and those movements are only gaining more traction. The anti-imperialist “left” thinks it’s gaining clout with an Orientalized view of the Other, thinks it’s making friends with the real socialist world (which is allegedly principally homophobic and transphobic), but they’re not. They’ll be left behind to the dustbin of history just like every pseudo-socialist pseudo-fascist movement has been.
It’s not super comforting for us as revolutionaries in the nation they thrive in, I know. It is a silver lining, I think, still. Remember that the actual communist movement is alive and thriving, remember that the revolutionary LGBT movement is doing the same in conjuction with the communist movement. We may feel alone nationally, but the socialist world is on our side.
Thanks. 😔
Adding to @SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml and the positive narative they gave, much of the reactionary sentiment in places like Russia and elsewhere is fueled by western interference led by Christian fascists that have spent incredible amounts of time, money, and resources to “save” the world from queer people by sponsoring legislation and spreading propaganda. This has only increased since gay marriage was confirmed as legal by the courts in the US and Christian fascists were emboldened to expand their enterprise abroad.
The west can not be blamed for everything but as it diminishes I believe queer people will stand taller than they have since before euro colonialism.
Well yes. Humanity cant just hold on to these phobias forever. Eventually it must get exhausting.
That would make more sense. I though he was talking about Western leftists in general and I couldn’t rhyme his statement with, for example, our party’s vision on LGBTQ+ rights, especially considering the amount of LGBTQ+ people participating in our party.
There is also Brigid and the Probably Canceled podcast. A marxist type that exploded into transphobic confetti within the last year.
I also need some kind of a source on them being transphobic, not just hearsay.
How do I do like, NSFW spoilers? I have some pictures I could share, but do not want to put transphobia on display
The spoiler line can have anything you want, so like:
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Stuff here
Thank you!
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There are more but I think this shows sort of the tenor of what her thoughts are, which includes repeating nonsense anti-trans junk science like AGP and weird conspiracy theories about transhumanism. These were from her “close friends” stories but someone screen-capped and leaked them. I don’t follow her, so I can’t 100% guarantee the authenticity.
However, I can say that she works at WorldWE, which partners with right-wing anti-abortion, anti-gay, and anti-trans organisations in their crusade to empower the police and ICE to further surveil and criminalise people in their quest to “end trafficking.” Esperanza Fonseca also works for WorldWE, as well as AF3IRM, an organisation that very specifically supports a police contact and narcing programme (Project ROSE), pushes for the increased policing of marginalised communities (especially in Hawai’i with the Hawai’i Sate Commission on the Status of Women, which was described by its director and the founder of AF3IRM Hawai’i as “the feminist police”) and the criminalisation of large swathes of the population (peddling research funded by the Department of State that includes “psychoeducation” of prostitutes and coercing them to narc on other prostitutes).
So world without exploitation partners with the cops? And is anti queer and anti woman? Wow I had no idea.
But also Esperoza, who is trans, works with them??? That is disappointing.
How do you suggest we compartmentalize information like this?
Also I think Brigid also posts anti vax stuff as well to add to this mess
Hol up, Probably Canceled went transphobic? Would you mind elaborating?
I didn’t witness it directly. My partner explained it to me months ago so I will try to recall.
It was said that there were some redflags that some people (especially trans people) caught early on but others were caught up in the details and though they were not technically transphobic.
Eventually it became obvious to a larger portion of people during conversations around abortion. They began to aggressively assert that talking about “people who give birth” instead of women is a kind of anti feminist, anti woman, kind of speech. They basically died on that hill and vindicated the people that initially were skeptical.
Part of the narrative is Brigid went from right wing to communist in a relatively short period of time and seemed to still have reactionary vestiges that, when addressed by trans folks, exploded.
I think in some ways it is a story about rampant transphobia and how quickly it can bloom. It’s also a story about how we regularly fail to listen when trans people notice red flags.
That being said I don’t use social media outside of here and reddit and only know an indirect version of the story.
Just go in YouTube comments of any video, movie or game having to do anything with WW2, the amount of nazi apologia is insane
We all do
we need a Mafia for the left
isnt this literally a vanguard party
NGL… thought about it.
Idk buddy. I’m personally more worried about the rent, my wages, and the cops. My opinion is that you should get the fuck off of twitter. It’s a waste of your time. You aren’t fighting a holy war. It’s a space for the perpetually online. It doesn’t mater as much as you think it does. Dragon blood man is going to say his nonsense there or somewhere. He’s one of the most successful contemporary rap artists. People are paying him money to hear what he has to say. There’s probably a more intelligent analysis than banning Mr. Ye from your majority bot filled twitter sphere.
You ever go outside and try to express this outrage with normal people? They don’t know what you’re saying. You’ll end up sounding crazy, like someone who can’t have a conversation that doesn’t involve their favorite anime. Grow up. Learn how to be interesting to regular people.
