• @Salamander@mander.xyz
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    43 years ago

    What are some valid reasons for workers to vote against unionizing?

    I did find this report on the topic, which I will try to look at later. I am pretty ignorant about the topic of unions.

    • @DePingus
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      73 years ago

      I’ve read comments on other sites, that said Bessemer, Alabama is a very poor and small city. That Amazon fulfillment center employs a lot of people and, as bad as the job is, it’s still one of the best jobs in the area. Workers are afraid that if they unionize, Amazon will just shutdown the fulfillment center and leave everyone without work.

      • @Salamander@mander.xyz
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        43 years ago

        That sounds abusive.

        In the report linked above there is a section on Plant-Closing Threats. They point out the following:

        Employers recognize the value that plant-closing threats add to an overall anti-union strategy, and they frequently issue such threats even when they do not intend to carry them out. Bronfenbrenner (1997) found that half of all employers involved in union organizing campaigns nationally issued threats to close all or part of their operations should the union be victorious. Just three percent actually followed through on these threats after workers voted in favor of union representation. (Bronfenbrenner 2000)

        There is also a section that discusses the legality of such anti-union strategy:

        Most Employer Tactics Are Considered Legal or Difficult to Prove as “Unfair”

        At first glance, many of the tactics that employers use appear to violate the law. For example, the threat of company closings or relocations is one of the most common anti-union tactics used during organizing campaigns. The following are examples from the CRC Survey of the ways in which employers delivered the threat that avoid explicitly connecting the closure of the facility to employees’ decision to join or vote for the union or engage in protected activity:

        • “I can close this company if I want to.”

        • "I might have to close [the company] because we don’t have money. I might shut down [the company] and re-open it under a different name.”

        • "The company is losing money and can’t compete with a union in place.”

        • "The company next door closed because of a union. A lot of companies are closing down or leaving the U.S. because of the unions.”

        • “Unions make our business unviable”

  • @Axaoe
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    33 years ago

    I wonder if there’s something I’m missing, I would have though (as an outsider) that opting for unionization would have been ideal in the long run for the workers (even if some didnt benefit the same way in the short run).

    If anyone knows more or has a link please share, I’d like to learn more.