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    2 years ago

    NaZIS on BoTh SiDEs

    People say this kind of stuff when you mention Nazis in Ukraine, but like…what am I supposed to take away from this? Are the Nazis in Ukraine preferable to the Nazis in Russia?

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      That’s how you know they don’t actually give a shit. We say Azov, they say Wagner, as if Azov and their multiple, well documented crimes against humanity are suddenly okay just because the Russians have nazis too.

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        Wait, isn’t this that whataboutism thing they keep saying we do?

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      Right? Like, if you genuinely believe they both have Nazis, why are you supporting one side over the other? I would give them credit if they’d just say “fuck both of them, let’s stay out of it.”

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        Another nuance liberals miss is that there are nazis legally incorporated into their society. You can’t the same about Russia (or at least, it’s not to the extent of the Bandera worship in Ukraine 😬). How does that not raise questions about how Ukrainian society is at large? It doesn’t take that many fascists to overtake a society???

        The US will come in and make things better though 🤡!

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          I think libs take the comments about Nazis in Ukraine as us saying “all Ukrainians are Nazis” rather than “there are Nazis in power in the Ukraine and they have ingrained fascism into their society”.

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            They’re purposely playing dumb about it. Saying there are Nazis in Ukraine isn’t propaganda nor is it an allegation, it’s an observable fact. The only possible way to spin that in a way that makes you look “good” is to claim that someone is saying every single person in Ukraine is a goose stepping fascist, which is of course untrue.