You clearly must understand that taking energy from Russia is blood money.
You clearly must understand that Russia isn’t doing anything different than NATO here. In fact, the whole playbook for Ukraine was copied from the Yugoslavia playbook NATO used. NATO recognized the independence of breakaway provinces in Yugoslavia and then used that as a pretext to invade. Russia did exact same thing with LPR and DPR following historical precedent NATO set. Given your unwavering support for NATO this shows what a hypocrite you truly are.
Furthermore, as I’ve already explained, Europe destroying itself economically does not hurt Russia in any way. If anything, this puts Russia in a much stronger position with regards to Europe. Stuff like steel mills are shutting down all across Europe already. This is going to be a problem for Europe building any sort of military, especially given that current stock piles have already been depleted in Ukraine.
The west didn’t attack Ukraine.
The west literally overthrew an elected government in Ukraine in 2014 and has been funding and arming a regime that courts literal fascists there ever since.
And the deal in April… well, that was mostly a demand, not a proposal.
No, it was a very reasonable proposal. Only a two bit propagandist would argue otherwise.
Says the guy who despises the west and the NATO, but still lives in a western NATO country. Maybe it’s time for you to move out and join the comrades.
That’s right I despise your genocidal alliance. Just because I’m stuck in a western country doesn’t mean I have to support the murderous regime. I’d love to move out, but it’s not as easy to uproot your whole life as some idiots seem to think.
Come next year you’ll get to see everything you hold dear crumble because of idiotic policies you support.
I’m curious what’s the new playbook now when China demanded Russia that they must leave Kazakhstan alone and keep it independent? Seems China holds the better hand now. And when China is the one that literally funds Russia now so…
China is the biggest winner, and China becoming the dominant geopolitical player can only be a good thing. Certainly a far most sane and stable country than Russia. However, claiming that China is the only country that funds Russia is just plain old misinformation. Russia has lots of trade with India, Iran, Turkey, and many other countries including most of Latin America. BRICS is rapidly becoming world’s dominant economy and Russia is a the centre of it.
Meanwhile, the west doesn’t actually produce much of anything and with cheap and abundant energy being the thing of the past, Europe is now starting to deinudstrialize further.
People voted because they wanted to take a step towards western countries and Europe. Russia didn’t like that. And here we are in 2022 where the propaganda blossoms that west is the one to blame and the government was overthrown. Sigh.
That’s not what actually happened. It was a violent coup that overthrew the government people voted for. You’re either utterly ignorant or much more likely a liar.
It was a demand.
It was a negotiation, and Ukraine was close to accepting the terms. This would’ve preserved most of the territory Ukraine had before the war. After the west sabotaged this negotiation Ukraine’s position has been worsening with every single month.
Is it just me or does it look bad if we bend the knee and became a pawn for Russia? I’d say that’s pretty idiotic policy.
That is precisely where the current European policy is leading you. So, if you think that’s bad, then you should be opposing it, but since you’re also an idiot you support it. This is a self fulfilling prophecy.
It’s hilarious how you keep talking about some moral superiority here. US runs a literal torture camp on Cuban soil and causing a famine in Afghanistan by robbing them of their foreign assets after hunting people for sport there for past two decades. These are your best friends in NATO. If you cared about human rights even a tiniest bit you’d be against NATO, but you’re just fine with war crimes as long as they serve you because you’re a depraved fuck.
Hopefully in six months your propaganda orchestra has lost its notes.
You keep on hoping, reality isn’t going to bend the knee for you though.
NATO is objectively not the lesser evil. Nothing Russia has done to date even begins to compare to the atrocities NATO is responsible for. The war on terror alone eclipses any intervention by Russia anywhere. You openly support the biggest terrorist organization in the world, and keep trying to make some false equivalence here. It’s pathetic.
There’s a difference if there are civilian casualties versus actively targeting and killing civilians.
Oh you mean like 90% of done strikes that kill civilians. Or perhaps deliberate destruction of civilian infrastructure in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Afghanistan that NATO has done?
I refuse to believe that anyone could so ignorant not to know these things. Which leaves only one possible conclusion.
You clearly must understand that Russia isn’t doing anything different than NATO here. In fact, the whole playbook for Ukraine was copied from the Yugoslavia playbook NATO used. NATO recognized the independence of breakaway provinces in Yugoslavia and then used that as a pretext to invade. Russia did exact same thing with LPR and DPR following historical precedent NATO set. Given your unwavering support for NATO this shows what a hypocrite you truly are.
Furthermore, as I’ve already explained, Europe destroying itself economically does not hurt Russia in any way. If anything, this puts Russia in a much stronger position with regards to Europe. Stuff like steel mills are shutting down all across Europe already. This is going to be a problem for Europe building any sort of military, especially given that current stock piles have already been depleted in Ukraine.
The west literally overthrew an elected government in Ukraine in 2014 and has been funding and arming a regime that courts literal fascists there ever since.
No, it was a very reasonable proposal. Only a two bit propagandist would argue otherwise.
That’s right I despise your genocidal alliance. Just because I’m stuck in a western country doesn’t mean I have to support the murderous regime. I’d love to move out, but it’s not as easy to uproot your whole life as some idiots seem to think.
Come next year you’ll get to see everything you hold dear crumble because of idiotic policies you support.
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China is the biggest winner, and China becoming the dominant geopolitical player can only be a good thing. Certainly a far most sane and stable country than Russia. However, claiming that China is the only country that funds Russia is just plain old misinformation. Russia has lots of trade with India, Iran, Turkey, and many other countries including most of Latin America. BRICS is rapidly becoming world’s dominant economy and Russia is a the centre of it.
Meanwhile, the west doesn’t actually produce much of anything and with cheap and abundant energy being the thing of the past, Europe is now starting to deinudstrialize further.
That’s not what actually happened. It was a violent coup that overthrew the government people voted for. You’re either utterly ignorant or much more likely a liar.
It was a negotiation, and Ukraine was close to accepting the terms. This would’ve preserved most of the territory Ukraine had before the war. After the west sabotaged this negotiation Ukraine’s position has been worsening with every single month.
That is precisely where the current European policy is leading you. So, if you think that’s bad, then you should be opposing it, but since you’re also an idiot you support it. This is a self fulfilling prophecy.
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We’ll just revisit this in 6 months and see what tune you’re singing then.
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It’s hilarious how you keep talking about some moral superiority here. US runs a literal torture camp on Cuban soil and causing a famine in Afghanistan by robbing them of their foreign assets after hunting people for sport there for past two decades. These are your best friends in NATO. If you cared about human rights even a tiniest bit you’d be against NATO, but you’re just fine with war crimes as long as they serve you because you’re a depraved fuck.
You keep on hoping, reality isn’t going to bend the knee for you though.
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NATO is objectively not the lesser evil. Nothing Russia has done to date even begins to compare to the atrocities NATO is responsible for. The war on terror alone eclipses any intervention by Russia anywhere. You openly support the biggest terrorist organization in the world, and keep trying to make some false equivalence here. It’s pathetic.
Oh you mean like 90% of done strikes that kill civilians. Or perhaps deliberate destruction of civilian infrastructure in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Afghanistan that NATO has done?
I refuse to believe that anyone could so ignorant not to know these things. Which leaves only one possible conclusion.