browsing through All has so much pro-fascist posts coming from lemmygrad that it drowns out all the other instances. I’m surprised they’re even federated by default but we should have an option to block instances from All if lemmy is deadset on federating with them just because they are fascists with a red and yellow flag…
(before the Tankies start posting about how they aren’t pro-fascism “Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy” which all describe the Z movement in Russia they gleefully support in multiple posts)
I’m lol’d. Can’t even say the comment with a straight face!
So by their own criteria, liberals are fascists— beginning with the French Revolution, in which they killed and suppressed the feudal ruling class and its institutions, and with more modern or recent examples including COINTELPRO or the U.S. police brutalizing BLM protestors in 2020.
Don’t forget the so‐called American Revolution and both sides of the U.S. Civil War, where the material conditions once again took precedence over liberal ideology. Forcible suppression of opposition is a means to an end, not vice versa. That’s partly why I’ve been studying and discussing Fascism more, because equating it with violent suppression is a popular oversimplification and a classic case of confusing the tail for the dog.
They disavowed French Revolution even before it finished. As they did with every other bourgeois (their!) revolution. Marx explain this in his two books about France 1848-1850, and Lenin was saying like every 10 pages in 1905-1917 that liberals need to be dragged by proletariat to fight even for their own interests, and the moment they get any fake crumb from landlords they instantly turn counterrevolutionary.
“Forcible suppression of opposition”.
So by their own criteria, liberals are fascists— beginning with the French Revolution, in which they killed and suppressed the feudal ruling class and its institutions, and with more modern or recent examples including COINTELPRO or the U.S. police brutalizing BLM protestors in 2020.
Don’t forget the so‐called American Revolution and both sides of the U.S. Civil War, where the material conditions once again took precedence over liberal ideology. Forcible suppression of opposition is a means to an end, not vice versa. That’s partly why I’ve been studying and discussing Fascism more, because equating it with violent suppression is a popular oversimplification and a classic case of confusing the tail for the dog.
They disavowed French Revolution even before it finished. As they did with every other bourgeois (their!) revolution. Marx explain this in his two books about France 1848-1850, and Lenin was saying like every 10 pages in 1905-1917 that liberals need to be dragged by proletariat to fight even for their own interests, and the moment they get any fake crumb from landlords they instantly turn counterrevolutionary.
honestly the only lib I support is Robespierre
Same here, Robespierre is one of the very few good liberals in all of history
would john brown be considered a liberal?
He did nothing wrong
He did plenty weird and wrong, but his life explains a lot of it, and no other revolutionary leaders except Marat was more based.
Truly the only good lib ever.