browsing through All has so much pro-fascist posts coming from lemmygrad that it drowns out all the other instances. I’m surprised they’re even federated by default but we should have an option to block instances from All if lemmy is deadset on federating with them just because they are fascists with a red and yellow flag…

(before the Tankies start posting about how they aren’t pro-fascism “Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy” which all describe the Z movement in Russia they gleefully support in multiple posts)

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    No. Google, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, …

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      So the NSA AND a bunch of corps are spying on us? Thats obviously less worse than just the state monitoring your com’s.

      Seems much worse to me since the corps don’t just give your data to the government, theysell it en masse for advertising purposes.

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      That’s all tied under US surveillance. The PRC has its social media operations and tech companies too. Basically everything you hate about the USA, they are doing it too

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        They are not flying over half the globe to murder people there. They do not murder the poor. They do not create neonazis. They do not exempt the rich from laws. They do not let people die from covid. They do not force people to have a car. They have a no first strike nuclear policy. They do not have school shootings. They do not have police that protects school shooters. They do not have hollywood. They do not have melon husk. They do not have a history of genociding a whole continent. They banned bitcoin mining. They did not create facebook. They do not have 100s of military bases. They did not privatize their space sector.

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          This is not entirely accurate, but you are right that they haven’t developed to that stage yet of invading countries on the other side of the world, but if the power level gets high enough that’s exactly what will happen. USA was also where China is at now and it took a while to get to that point. China has its own version of some of the things you mentioned, and some other things that are not pleasant. Your optimism that China will be a better hegemon than past ones in history is sadly naive.

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            You lack any and all material understanding because your hatred of russians and chinese blinds you. Those are also conveniently people the usa has demonized for decades. You accuse the chinese of things they did not do, but could do, THAT THE USA ALREADY DID!

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            USA was also where China is at now and it took a while to get to that point.

            What are you talking about? USA didn’t get to this point the same way China did at all. China got to where it is without doing anything to anyone, without using slavery, without using foreign exploitation, with entirely their own means.

            The US was built by literal slaves, and the mass exploitation of the entire world. How the fuck can you say the US wasn’t built on foreign exploitation when MILLIONS of actual literal slaves were exploited to construct it? What the fuck kind of white western chauvinism is this?

            It’s utterly nonsensical to compare the rise of the two. One has clearly risen on its own means without being remotely like any other rising power that has ever existed in history while the other is one of the biggest monsters to have ever existed.

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              Actually according to the UN China is still using slavery. I agree China didn’t do all the bad things America has done yet, but does some and will do more. It’s the nature of power and wealth. China is already exploiting foreign lands, as I live in one of them. There are other inaccuracies in what you wrote but this much suffices.

              I did not claim anywhere what you wrote in your second paragraph. Just throwing out “white western chauvinism” is absurd. What kind of nonsense is this?

              Stop fetishizing and othering China by claiming it’s exceptional and angelic. It’s just a normal country like any other and the issue is not China’s rise, it is what its politicians will do after the rise that’s important.

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                Actually according to the UN China is still using slavery.

                cite where the UN said that.

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                Actually according to the UN China is still using slavery.

                No it isn’t, no such resolution has taken place and no body of the UN has made that claim, you are literally talking complete and utter bullshit. You should stop getting your information from reddit comment sections and start actually fucking reading.

                The fact that you would make this claim when UN High Commissioner for Human Rights visited Xinjiang just a few weeks ago and gave a glowing report is utterly hilarious. Do you actually pay attention to any official sources at all or do you only get your information from what other white people vote into your sphere of visibility?

                Islamic envoys from 30 countries all disagree with you. Why do you believe white people on the topic of muslims instead of listening to what muslims actually have to say? Are you going to dismiss them in favour of your US propaganda? You’d be dismissing the ENTIRE muslim world on the topic of muslims which would be yet another incredible demonstration of white western chauvinism and racism.

                China is already exploiting foreign lands, as I live in one of them.

                And lmao @ this. China just announced that it has fully cancelled 23 loans to 17 African countries. Such exploitation! Such debt trap!

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                  It was in fact reported by the UN. As for the claim that Muslims approve of the treatment of Uyghurs in China that is false. The envoys you mentioned are not Islamic and do not represent Muslims.

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                    It was in fact reported by the UN.

                    No it fucking wasn’t lmao. Good luck finding it to prove it.

                    The envoys you mentioned are not Islamic and do not represent Muslims.

                    Holy fucking shit. You are literally just lying now, backed into a corner you just make shit up.

                    The entire muslim world supports China and opposes this western propaganda. Literally every single muslim country. The only people that perpetuate this bullshit are the white western countries. This should tell you something but instead you’re a racist who will just dismiss the muslim countries in favour of your white nato propaganda.