Tens of thousands of ‘burners’ urged to conserve food and water and shelter in place in Nevada’s Black Rock desert

You have to laugh … I remember Glastonbury, up to my knees in mud - it’s all part of the fun. Having said that, it’s unlikely turn into a survival situation in a field in Somerset, so not really that comparable …

  • Cabeza2000@lemmy.world
    98·
    1 年前

    The weather-related disruptions have caused suspension of the cleaning and emptying of thousands of portable toilets.

    This sounds nightmarish. People will start avoiding the portable toilets and it will be even worse.

    • socsa
      174·
      1 年前

      Rain outs like this are pretty common at these festivals. The difference here is that I guess it is a bit harder to leave and more remote? I’d say 20% of the festivals I’ve been to have had some degree of mud issue resulting in some degree of infrastructure breakdown.

      • ultranaut@lemmy.world
        76·
        1 年前

        Burning Man is in a dry alkali lakebed way out in the middle of nowhere. Normally it’s extremely hot and dry the entire time, the ground isn’t dirt but a very fine powder that blows everywhere. When it rains that fine powder turns into this incredibly sticky mud and it becomes extremely difficult to move. It’s quite a bit different than your standard muddy field kind of experience.

            • KevonLooney@lemm.ee
              2710·
              1 年前

              Because there’s no infrastructure, leading to less than an inch of rain causing chaos? Did you read the article?

              • Rediphile@lemmy.ca
                2224·
                1 年前

                This mindset leads to no one doing anything interesting ever.

                Skiing, sailing, scuba diving…none of it makes any real sense as the environments do not tend to have much infrastructure for human survival. But I can’t imagine life without any illogical recreational activities such as these. It’s fun.

                • KevonLooney@lemm.ee
                  149·
                  1 年前

                  Do you… think people don’t live in the mountains? Or that a tiny amount of rain will sink a boat?

                  That’s… only something someone from Southern California would think. Rain won’t hurt you unless you stupidly pack tens of thousands of people into an area with no infrastructure.

        • merc@sh.itjust.works
          4·
          1 年前

          Apparently because it’s alkali dirt, it leads to nasty wounds if it stays on skin for a while. Even in a dry year, people were supposed to use vinegar to clean dust off themselves so it wouldn’t cause problems. Who wants to bet that many of the people covered in mud didn’t have enough vinegar, or maybe didn’t even have any.

    • Ataraxia@lemm.ee
      11·
      1 年前

      Last time I was out there just because I couldn’t find a toilet I just squatted. Of course dig and bury if it’s shit. But Def need to walk a ways from the camps if it’s still wet.

  • jz68@lemmy.world
    911·
    1 年前

    I’m stuck here in the sex orgy tent…send help…

    but not too quickly, take your time.

    • Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.ee
      301·
      1 年前

      It’s short for “Burning Manny”. There’s one guy, Manuel Asada, and they burn him every year. It’s cool though, he’s into it.

      • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
        42·
        1 年前

        It’s short for “Burning Manny”. There’s one guy, Manuel Asada, and they burn him every year. It’s cool though, he’s into it.

        What’s the story behind this? Who is Manuel Asada?

        • Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.ee
          13·
          1 年前

          “Manuel Asada” is the closest I could get to a person’s name that means “burning man”. Asada is Spanish for roasted or grilled.

          • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            1 年前

            Lol ah ok. I was wondering if that was a joke comment or if there’s some actual real lore behind the founding of Burning Man, etc.

              • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                1 年前

                And in all seriousness: if you ever get the chance, go to an ACTUAL effigy burning festival.

                I would, the way you describe it makes it sounds like a really nice event to see.

                That is, as long as there’s not heavy torrent of rain washing everything out.

                Thanks for the reply / explanation, it was a good read.

              • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                1 年前

                And it is generally human shaped because that made it a lot easier to spin it as “This effigy represents The Other tribe across the river. They are the bad people and the cause of all your problems” as needed.

                It’s too bad that the “other tribe” technique still works so well in today’s politics.

                If people ever started paying attention to the meta of the species, they’d realize we’re all more like each other than we think.

              • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                1 年前

                If you like it, feel free to take it and expand upon it

                Nah, that’s fine. I’ll take the chuckle the explanation gave me, and move on.

  • phoneymouse@lemmy.world
    413·
    1 年前

    I’ve been to burning man, but even I can’t help but laugh a little bit at this… you wanted “radical self-reliance”? You got it.

    • merc@sh.itjust.works
      81·
      1 年前

      But they didn’t really want radical self reliance. They wanted the Medieval Times version of radical self reliance.

  • wokehobbit@lemmy.world
    408·
    1 年前

    The “news” is bullshit. I’ve got friends there right now and they’re fine. A little muddy and wet but nobody is in danger.

    • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
      82·
      1 年前

      I’m so annoyed with our “news” lately (and by lately I mean years). It’s so fucking sensational and fear inducing it just makes me sick.

      News told me LA was underwater and it was the end of days. Friends there told me some places had some flash flooding and it sucks, but overall it blew over.

      NYC had that flooding a couple years back and I was going on a trip there and the news was literally warning people of how bad it was. I got there and it was literally like nothing happened.

      Here in Seattle my relatives tell me they STILL hear about CHAZ/CHOP. Like asking if I’m safe. It was 3 YEARS AGO and lasted a few days! I literally walked through that park a couple days ago, but they’re terrified of it out here.

      I hate the people who claim conspiracy everywhere, but there is a clear profit motive to keep us afraid and clicking refresh on news sites. I’m freaking tired of it.

  • counselwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    305·
    1 年前

    What is burning Man? I know it’s a festival of some sorts that’s done in a desert, but that’s about all I know.

    What happens there?

    • pizzahoe@lemm.ee
      10915·
      1 年前

      Rich people travel 1000+ kilometres to gather around and pretend to be not rich and just like common folks! This is my understanding as someone who isn’t american.

        • Ataraxia@lemm.ee
          31·
          1 年前

          My mother in law took us a few times and the most we did was pot. Also I was unemployed both times as I was laid off and got a cheap ticket. The original burners still go and they’re definitely not rich.

      • Infinity187@lemm.ee
        39·
        1 年前

        Burning Man was an amazing event when I stumbled across it on the internet in the late 90’s. I must have been 14 or 15, it used to be a real “go experience, experiment and find yourself” setting. It’s since gone the way of SXSW. It totally goes against what it was intended for.

      • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
        34·
        1 年前

        That’s what it is today. Use to be more underground and subversive, even if it took money to be involved.

          • DoctorTYVM@lemmy.world
            231·
            1 年前

            It’s trying to recreate the glorified vision of Woodstock but with more drugs and more money

          • merc@sh.itjust.works
            21·
            1 年前

            Except, it’s not really about a lifestyle because nobody’s lifestyle involves living permanently or even semi-permanently in a dry lake bed. A hippy lifestyle might be living on a self-sufficient communally managed farm, or something. But, strip it down to its core and burning man still involves people traveling in from elsewhere, depending on limited supplies they brought in from elsewhere to spend a week in a place they couldn’t possibly live.

            So, maybe it’s a temporary art exhibit in the middle of nowhere so people can feel more free to express ideas and perform activities that they can’t in their boring 9-5 lifestyles. Which is fine, I guess… but it only makes it seem even more like cosplay. If you really want to live that way, then be that person the rest of the year. Don’t be yourself for a week and then hide your true self the other 51 weeks of the year.

      • SCB@lemmy.world
        1823·
        1 年前

        Burning Man is a festival celebrating creative expression. No one there is pretending to not be rich

    • Bonehead@kbin.social
      23·
      1 年前

      Watch Malcolm In The Middle, season 7 episode 1 “Burning Man”. It’ll give you a fair approximation.

    • bemenaker@lemmy.worldEnglish
      101·
      1 年前

      It started as a bunch of hippies in California decided to travel to the desert and do a week long festival (party) that was for expressing art, living care free, and being self-reliant. You brought everything with you when you came, and you took everything out when you left, leave nothing behind. Over time it has grown bigger and bigger, there are other smaller instances all over the country. The smaller ones still have a lot of the original vibe. The main one still has it, but now a lot of tourists go just to party, do drugs, and have sex. Yes, a lot of the artists have a lot of money, people talking about rich people, it was never about money or not having it. It was about living carefree.

        • merc@sh.itjust.works
          5·
          1 年前

          I’ve heard the recent ones leave a lot of trash.

          Which is cleaned up by the organizers, so, as a whole the organization doesn’t leave trash behind. But, a lot of individual people do. But, in a group of tens of thousands of people, you’re always going to get some assholes. There are probably plenty of people who not only make sure to clean up their own stuff, but also clean up other people’s trash too.

          I dunno though, the whole thing seems so fake to me. Like “radical self reliance” is merely bringing your own supplies in and then bringing your trash out? That’s called “camping” in a lot of the world.

          Plus, there’s the absurdity of a private airstrip for the ultra-wealthy burning man people, the massive environmental cost of everybody driving in and driving out, the idea of “radical self reliance” but also porta-potties.

            • merc@sh.itjust.works
              3·
              1 年前

              I don’t know about “play being poor”. It sounds like it’s more “do lots of drugs without getting arrested or without dealing with the disapproval of people around me”, or “(try to) have sex with strangers” or “indulge in sexual kinks that I don’t want to admit to having with people in the real world” or “pretend I’m a different person for a week so that my shitty reputation doesn’t always make everyone I meet hate me”.

              Sure, for a few days it might also involve living in a tent or living in an RV instead of living in a mansion, but that’s hardly living like a poor person. It’s living like a middle class person on a camping trip.

              • sederx@programming.dev
                23·
                1 年前

                It’s living like a middle class person

                i guess thats where we differ. thats a rich person. since middle class is not a thing.

        • electrogamerman@lemmy.world
          4·
          1 年前

          Weird. When I was there people were naked everywhere. And Im European, so “family friendly areas” allow nudity too. Nudity is different than having sex.

  • mayo@lemmy.today
    241·
    1 年前

    I’ve come around. Us internet dwellers should take it easy on the judgment and cynicism about this festival.

    People take the internet too seriously these days. Let the festival people have fun.