Not sure why Signal gets all the attention when Matrix is much more successful at spreading open source messaging and is also decentralized.

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    listen to yourself, it doesn’t have e2e encryption by default?? So the telegram servers can see your chats, that’s not acceptable for a chat software.

    e2e also doesn’t work in groups on telegram the last time I checked, so the chat with a couple of friends is out for grabs by whatever jurisdiction telegram is operating under as well, great.

    Signal is like 5 times better than this, so is whatsapp (depends though) and of course matrix or xmpp. Comparing it to instagram messaging is a joke.

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      We actually don’t know what WhatsApp is doing. It’s a closed source app, so there is nothing preventing Facebook from getting your keys and reading your chats. It just takes one national security letter to force them.

      Telegram wins because it’s usable by non-techies. And has open source clients. And has a decent Linux client. It’s preferable to chatting over Instagram.

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          Why do you think WhatsApp has E2EE? It’s a closed source app. There is nothing preventing Facebook from grabbing your keys.

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            @thervingi
            Probably the fact that if news slipped out, it would have been (one of) the biggest scandles facebook has ever done, and I dont personally think its worth the risk for them.

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              That’s what NDA’s are for :) Facebook got away with a lot worse.

              Also it might not be Facebook’s decision. It takes one national security letter from the FISA court to force them.

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            on Telegram they wouldn’t even have to grab your keys, they can just run data collection on all their users unnoticed, without breaking any promises.