By Tyler Lyons On My Life Before Joining the Party Long before the onset of the COVID pandemic, I was struggling with my political identity. I had been disillusioned with…
Also sectarian? What is this lie? The KKE is anything but sectarian. They literally have an “independent party policy”, which means that, no matter what the position of the party on something is, they will not cut ties with other communist parties even if there are big disagreements. As long as a party is communist, they consider them comrades. Thats why they created the International Meeting of Communist and Workers Party, where they regularly invite communist parties from all around the world with very different ideologies, some even pacifist reformists like the Communist Party of Japan. They also invite CPUSA, which you seem to like. But yeah sure, KKE is sectarian.
They are not anti AES, they have bilateral ties with the CPC and regularly invite them to the aforementioned meeting. They are just critical of chinese investment in Greece, and frankly you cant blame them, many greek workers have died in workplace accidents at chinese owned firms, and the chinese investors have been anything but helpful, instead choosing to barricade themselves with lawyers, rather than paying reparations. I personally think its the greek governments fault, not Chinas, but you cant blame the KKE for being suspicious of this.
They did not even attend the meeting hosted by the CPC. They have expressed “critical support” over nebulous shit like… trade. Wow. Such great criticism. Very original.
They literally invited the CPC to Greece several times, along with the cuban, laotian, vietnamese and north korean parties. They literally support China dude, all they disagree in (omg, a disagreement, how dare they, so antimarxist to have debates and different opinions) is chinese investment in capitalist countries, since it benefits off the labour of the workers there while they dont even get a seat at the negotiating table.
So? You original accusation was that the KKE was “homophobic sectarian”. Now we are dialing it back to left deviationist. Good job, thanks for admitting you lied.
Seriously, why are you americans all so stupid and arrogant? One would think that ML americans, with their rejection of american exceptionalism, would be humble and not make universal proclamations when they are first world priviliged kids with a terrible education system who know nothing about anything. But no, you still act like you know everything, smugly dismissing entire workers movements without even bothering to research them. I cannot believe the GULL for an american, member of the CPUSA, a party with a MINUSCULE membership (5000 according to Wikipedia, dont know if its true), a party that has achieved NOTHING since the USSR collapsed (the most theyve done is support the democrats), for you to be dismissing the KKE, a massive party, a party that organizes general nationwide strikes, a party that gets hundreds of thousands of votes, a party that has NEVER endorsed liberal parties or candidates, for YOU to dismiss THEM, is so ARROGANT its unbelievable.
I didnt wanna write this comment, because i believe being polite is important, but this is unacceptable, i cant stand this. For an AMERICAN, a citizen of the top imperialist power, member of a completely useless party that has no strenght, for YOU to denigrate and dismiss workers struggles in the countries YOUR government oppresses, is pure unadulterated ARROGANCE. Do you even know all the history of US meddling in Greece? Greece has suffered several fascist dictatorships propped up by the USA. And you know who was at the forefront of the resistance to these dictatorships? The KKE. All of this for a stupid yankee idiot to come and dismiss all of this. How many general nationwide strikes have you organized and led huh? What authority do you have to dismiss popular mass workers movements like that huh? NONE. I will NOT tolerate a stupid ignorant and arrogant american to denigrate the people oppressed by his taxpayer money. I WONT.
I have no problem with you disagreeing with my opinions, but this is unacceptable. Our conversation is DONE. Despite you thinking you are so smart and “free from the biases of being american”, its evident you are just as stupid and arrogant as your typical anticommunist John Doe. You may not see it, but the rest of the world does. You wanna fight imperialism? Start by SHUTTING UP and LEARNING from the rest of the world, who have much more experience at fighting imperialism than you or your entire country has, instead of blabbering without knowledge like you are right now. Exercise some HUMILITY for ONCE.
You are lying. The 2022 event hasnt been held yet, and it will be held in Cuba. So the only IMCWP that the KKE didnt attend and was held in China was in 2016. You lied.
“Wikipedia” what a cope, what a stupid excuse, the sources are literally cited there. But ok, ill cite them for you:
Also to debunk your slanderous LIE about the KKE not attending the 2016 IMCWP because “they hate China”. Very few parties attended that meeting, due to serious ideological rifts that year. That year, of the 118 members of the IMCWP, only FOUR attended. Including those who did not attend, is your beloved CPUSA. But yes, im sure this was the KKE alone just hating China.
Also sectarian? What is this lie? The KKE is anything but sectarian. They literally have an “independent party policy”, which means that, no matter what the position of the party on something is, they will not cut ties with other communist parties even if there are big disagreements. As long as a party is communist, they consider them comrades. Thats why they created the International Meeting of Communist and Workers Party, where they regularly invite communist parties from all around the world with very different ideologies, some even pacifist reformists like the Communist Party of Japan. They also invite CPUSA, which you seem to like. But yeah sure, KKE is sectarian.
They are anti-China and anti-AES.
lmao
They are not anti AES, they have bilateral ties with the CPC and regularly invite them to the aforementioned meeting. They are just critical of chinese investment in Greece, and frankly you cant blame them, many greek workers have died in workplace accidents at chinese owned firms, and the chinese investors have been anything but helpful, instead choosing to barricade themselves with lawyers, rather than paying reparations. I personally think its the greek governments fault, not Chinas, but you cant blame the KKE for being suspicious of this.
They did not even attend the meeting hosted by the CPC. They have expressed “critical support” over nebulous shit like… trade. Wow. Such great criticism. Very original.
They literally invited the CPC to Greece several times, along with the cuban, laotian, vietnamese and north korean parties. They literally support China dude, all they disagree in (omg, a disagreement, how dare they, so antimarxist to have debates and different opinions) is chinese investment in capitalist countries, since it benefits off the labour of the workers there while they dont even get a seat at the negotiating table.
lmao This is literally a left deviationist talking point that could be applied to Mao.
Ha
So? You original accusation was that the KKE was “homophobic sectarian”. Now we are dialing it back to left deviationist. Good job, thanks for admitting you lied.
They have ultra-left tendencies yes
You said “sectarian homophobic”, not “ultra left tendencies”. So you admit you lied?
Seriously, why are you americans all so stupid and arrogant? One would think that ML americans, with their rejection of american exceptionalism, would be humble and not make universal proclamations when they are first world priviliged kids with a terrible education system who know nothing about anything. But no, you still act like you know everything, smugly dismissing entire workers movements without even bothering to research them. I cannot believe the GULL for an american, member of the CPUSA, a party with a MINUSCULE membership (5000 according to Wikipedia, dont know if its true), a party that has achieved NOTHING since the USSR collapsed (the most theyve done is support the democrats), for you to be dismissing the KKE, a massive party, a party that organizes general nationwide strikes, a party that gets hundreds of thousands of votes, a party that has NEVER endorsed liberal parties or candidates, for YOU to dismiss THEM, is so ARROGANT its unbelievable.
I didnt wanna write this comment, because i believe being polite is important, but this is unacceptable, i cant stand this. For an AMERICAN, a citizen of the top imperialist power, member of a completely useless party that has no strenght, for YOU to denigrate and dismiss workers struggles in the countries YOUR government oppresses, is pure unadulterated ARROGANCE. Do you even know all the history of US meddling in Greece? Greece has suffered several fascist dictatorships propped up by the USA. And you know who was at the forefront of the resistance to these dictatorships? The KKE. All of this for a stupid yankee idiot to come and dismiss all of this. How many general nationwide strikes have you organized and led huh? What authority do you have to dismiss popular mass workers movements like that huh? NONE. I will NOT tolerate a stupid ignorant and arrogant american to denigrate the people oppressed by his taxpayer money. I WONT.
I have no problem with you disagreeing with my opinions, but this is unacceptable. Our conversation is DONE. Despite you thinking you are so smart and “free from the biases of being american”, its evident you are just as stupid and arrogant as your typical anticommunist John Doe. You may not see it, but the rest of the world does. You wanna fight imperialism? Start by SHUTTING UP and LEARNING from the rest of the world, who have much more experience at fighting imperialism than you or your entire country has, instead of blabbering without knowledge like you are right now. Exercise some HUMILITY for ONCE.
“Wikipedia”
There’s your mistake haha
Rest is ou just going on a rant
You are lying. The 2022 event hasnt been held yet, and it will be held in Cuba. So the only IMCWP that the KKE didnt attend and was held in China was in 2016. You lied.
“Wikipedia” what a cope, what a stupid excuse, the sources are literally cited there. But ok, ill cite them for you:
2022 IMCWP will be held in Cuba in October:
http://www.idcommunism.com/2022/03/cuba-to-host-international-meeting-of-communist-and-workers-parties-in-2022.html?m=1
2016 IMCWP:
http://www.ccnumpfc.com/index.php/View/48.html
Now what huh? Will you admit to lying?
Also to debunk your slanderous LIE about the KKE not attending the 2016 IMCWP because “they hate China”. Very few parties attended that meeting, due to serious ideological rifts that year. That year, of the 118 members of the IMCWP, only FOUR attended. Including those who did not attend, is your beloved CPUSA. But yes, im sure this was the KKE alone just hating China.
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Meeting_of_Communist_and_Workers'_Parties
I said no such thing, but in the most recent international meeting with communist parties they were not present
What are you talking about? 2022? Because until 2021 the KKE attended ALL meetings except the 2016 one.
That’s the one I’m talking about. What is “all” meetings to you? lmao