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      No country is communist, communism is a stateless society. China is socialist, its on the way towards communism. They are using market forces to raise the wealth of the people. Sure, they allow billionaires to profit from it, but they must follow the rules laid out by the workers, represented by the Communist Party of China. If they dont follow the rules, the firing squad awaits them and their assets are nationalized. In the end, the workers are the ultimate power, not the capitalists, which makes China socialist. This is nothing controversial, the Soviet Union did the same thing during the New Economic Policy.

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        In the US billionaires bribe politicians. Are officials immune from money in China?

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          No, they arent immune, but thats why China has an extensive anticorruption police system. Corruption was a big problem and endemic in the 2000s, so when Xi Jinping came to power in 2012, he created a special anticorruption bureau to crush corruption. He spared noone, even top level party members like Zhou Yongkang were imprisoned. Zhou was a member of the Politburo Standing Committee of the CPC, the most powerful political organ in China, and yet he was still sentenced to life in prison. In the US this never happens, thats the difference.

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          The difference is that when you get caught doing this in China, the person who paid the bribe and the person who took it will face the wall. In the US, bribing politicians is basically legal and there are no consequences for defying election fundraising laws that do exist.

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      I think a country with a communist party with 90 million members and a rapid improvement in the material conditions of hundreds of millions of its citizens is quite a bit closer to eventually being communist, whether or not it is presently communist.

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      It doesnt matter if they are billionaires, they will get persecuted for breaking the law, thats the difference between China and capitalist countries, your wealth cant white washe everything you do, there the goverment controls the billioaires.

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        I don’t believe that. Nobody gets to be a billionaire without being corrupt.

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            When have they gotten elected in the US? True, Trump, who claimed to be a billionaire, though I believe that’s one more lie.

            • The President of the United States participates in the election, which is financed by capitalists. This is the embodiment of capitalists controlling the government. At first, Xi Jinping was just the secretary of the party branch of a village, and then the county magistrate, mayor, and provincial governor eventually became the chairman. That’s the difference

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              What? Literally all US congressmen/women are rich, they are all at least millionaires, if not billionaires. Thats not the case in China.

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          Yes, that’s why they are not in power in China. You know, that’s the difference between dictatorship of the proletariat and dictatorship of the bourgeoisie - it’s who hold the power, not who exist or not.

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            In the US they don’t officially hold power. But they control the people who do.

              • The President of the United States participates in the election, which is financed by capitalists. This is the embodiment of capitalists controlling the government. At first, Xi Jinping was just the secretary of the party branch of a village, and then the county magistrate, mayor, and provincial governor eventually became the chairman. That’s the difference

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          In China their capital has no political influence. If they they to get away with breaking the law they are actually persecuted, unlike in capitalism.