I fucking didn’t.

Sure, please agitate to shut them down but seriously how the fuck do you come to this conclusion?

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        Getting China to open up as a market and labor pool cemented the Sino-Soviet split and provided a way for the stagnating American economy to expand further while further breaking domestic labor and providing more cheap consumer goods to keep the public placated and passive. They just assumed it would naturally progress into China also becoming more vulnerable to subversion and a reactionary takeover that would enable it to be made into a client state like Japan or South Korea.

        Just because they were cynical, scary monsters it doesn’t mean they weren’t also white supremacist capitalist ideologues who were fanatically confident in the divine superiority of their own system and who struggled to accurately gauge the strength and resolve of peoples they saw as inferior to themselves. They also just constantly fucked up all of the time, but had enough of a material and institutional advantage that they won anyways because they could just throw more money and guns at the worst people they could find at any given moment and some of them would do enough violence to accomplish the US’s goals, and they were still aware enough to know that the lie machines they were funding were inherently dishonest about their positions and methods instead of this gormless “well if the lie machine says it it must be the earnest and genuine truth, oh how benevolent and kind the lie machine is with its eternal quest to spread truth” bullshit that modern liberals do or the credulous sobbing and pissing themselves that more reactionary liberals do out of sheer contrarian confusion.

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          Incredible as it must seem to people who were alive to see it, it appears the CPC’s position has been historically vindicated. The USSR stood rigid and was snapped apart – The PRC bent, and so remains, changed but intact.

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            The USSR stood rigid and was snapped apart – The PRC bent, and so remains, changed but intact.

            I don’t think that’s accurate: the USSR undermined itself by directly attacking and denouncing its past while pushing through ill conceived liberalization schemes that seemed to have been cooked up on the assumption that markets are a magical and efficient system that would simply magic up wealth with magical capitalist efficiency while getting absolutely no material concessions for this from the west, while the PRC traded market reforms for actual material capital and access to resources and the CPC itself didn’t devolve into a frenzy of denouncing anyone who wasn’t a sufficiently fervent liberal of being a maoist doing a hecking oppression the way Gorbachev’s bloc would accuse people of “stalinist oppression” for not only opposing them but also just not being enthusiastic enough while otherwise actively supporting them.

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        Tbh, it’s a miracle to me China hasn’t gone full capitalism/neoliberalism. Maybe it isn’t a miracle, there’s still alot about the details of Deng’s policies I don’t know.

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    These outlets are filled with far left activists

    immediately followed by

    I’ve worked with these reporters for decades

    :thonk:

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        Far left is when you wave an lgbtqia+ flag while stepping on the throats of the working class and poor.

        America has been cooked since the vietnam war and the massive debt we accrued during it causing other nations to cash in their usd reserves for gold due to depleted faith in the us dollar and the idea that we did not have enough gold to cover the debt, then nixon ended the gold standard to stop the hemorrhaging pf the gold reserves and the us scrambled for 8 years to ensure the usd would remain as the global reserve currency ultimately making a shady deal with the saudi royals and opec to make it so that crude oil could only be purchased in USD which slowed down / temporarily postponed the hyper inflation that resulted from taking the usd off a gold standard and turning it into a worthless “trust me bro” fiat currency

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    Hm. This all seems too convenient. USAID and Radio Free both becoming targets - surely they can’t be that fucking stupid?

    Of course there’s people who really believe the shit this guy is saying, but surely many of the higher ups don’t?

    I have this gut feeling that USAID and RF closing up shop is all part of a new game plan. The empire allows free speech when times are easy. It clamps when competition arises. In the past year, USAID has stopped making information of it’s grants public. Therefore, the govt finds USAID to be too revealing.

    Perhaps wrapping it all up means they can burn some documents in the process. Maybe it’s that these outlets are too compromised - in the sense that it has become more common knowledge that USAID and especially RF are state propaganda outlets. In this new war against China, they need a clean slate and a redoubled effort. Both outlets began in response to the Soviets post war - RF in 1950, USAID in 1961. Now it’s China.

    I will add an extra layer of lizard brained conspiracy to this - there are document declassification windows in the US. At 25 years, its easy enough to reclassify it. At 50 years, exceptions can still be made. At 75 years, you have to have a very fucking good reason.

    Radio Free was setup 75 years ago. USAID 65. In coming years, more and more of RF’s dirty side will be made public knowledge. A decade later so too will USAID’s. This will all be coming out at the height of the coming cold war with China.

    Perhaps it is wise for the govt to distance themselves from it. To be able to claim they shut it down.

    The new outlets will be unknown entities.

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      At its core, it is a bad to bet on the US state being run in a sophisticated way. It depends more on its position to exert leverage than on the smartest and best stratagems. The people “at the top” being incompetent (but still cynical) has happened many times.

      Though it is an interesting question of what is going on in the intelligence blob. Sure, they havs their own batch of true believers that do not understand their actual role and what they do, but I have no doubts that those who are generally aware run the show. Does it mean they are on board with a surface-level restructuring and are betting on a different approach? Does it mean they plan to rein this in and we just haven’t noticed? Are they too distracted by the loyalty purge stuff for now and will be responding later?

      In any case I am very entertained to see so many imperialist propagandists out of work. Watch where they go next. That might indicate the extent to which this is a restructuring rather than defunding. Moves to academia, social media companies, and brand new NGOs are the ones to look out for, IMO.

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      I’m as surprised as anyone that there hasn’t been any sign of a swift backlash to these efforts behind closed doors, but I fear this gives our enemies too much credit. As others have commented, the Republican party is now controlled by people who have been steeped in the paranoid conspiratorial ideology fostered by past generations of conservative leadership in the hopes of maintaining a pliant base. They actually believe the absurd, ahistorical, contradictory things they say. I think it’s more likely the doddering remnants of the old guard are too complacent, too accustomed to having their way with things, to react quickly enough to maintain this propaganda apparatus.

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    mother fucking PRAXIS

    We have been posting in forums meanwhile the real leninists were the accelerationists ensuring the empire eats itself just at the very moment that china becomes economically more powerful.

    Fucking P R A X I S comrade Nawfal deserves a statue

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    Yes, it is kind of funny, but also its important to remember that this is just because Amerikkkan politicians are now just openly considering anything left of “deport everyone with brown skin” as communism. This is good for a laugh, but whatever comes next is going to suck.

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    When you operate on the assumption that “socialism is when the government does stuff”, it snowballs from there.

    I have a family member who legit believes agencies like NSA and CIA are communist.

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    Sure, please agitate to shut them down but seriously how the fuck do you come to this conclusion?

    Decades of actively detrimental political education probably