This is a repost from r/GZD

Originally posted by u/Rafaell_Luisi on 20 Dec 2021

Archive: https://archive.is/C8crs

The post:

This is a post responding to those multiple theorys saying that killing baby Hitler or making him be a painter would save the world, no it would not, it would only be a crime of infanticide.

It wasnt Hitler who destroyed the world, nor was Mussolini or fascists, the one that destroyed the world did that a lot earlier before WW1 even begined, and it was imperialism and capitalism.

Imperialism was the one responsible to cause WW1, it destroyed europe and lots of other countrys, it caused one, if not the most, brutal war in history, killed millions and destroyed the lifes of hundreds of millions. Post WW1 was the biggest cause of the rise of fascism, it gived the reasons to toxic nationalists by raising the hate against the winner side of WW1 (aka the allies) and the motives to blame in someone else for their own multiple problems, while also using bs “cientific arguments” about how they are the superior race and the inferior races caused their failure both in the war and after it (aka jews, muslins, Slavs, etc). This was just the beggining.

The second thing that caused this was the first big world wide failure of capitalism, The Great Depression, it ruined the lifes of hundreds of millions, worsened even more the lifes of people that where destroyed by WW1 and gived strenght to the socialists and comunists ideals now that the capitalist failure was obvious, this putted the burgeoise on the corner, with them they responded by financing the toxic nationalists ideals born after WW1, while also convincing those toxic nationalists that comunism was the new imperialist thing that would destroy their countrys and traditions, this gived even more ammo to Fascists to put not only the allies and minorities as a target, but the socialists and comunists too, this was the moment that WW2 was inevitable.

Fascists didnt cause WW1 nor did they cause the great depression, they are a product of the consequences of said events, if the world was able to get stable after WW1 and the Great Depression then the fascists would not have any argument or motive to exist, because they can only exist in a society hurted by the consequences of capitalism for a extend time period. Capitalism was the one that started all of this, both directly and indirectly.

If we want to go back in time and change the world to have a better future, then we would need to stop WW1 from happening, with is pratically impossible, or we should make sure socialists and comunists ideals where able to prevail on places ruined by WW1, other wise changing the life of people like Mussolini or Hitler would be virtually useles in the bigger picture, they wherent the ones that started the world crisis on the beggining of the last century, they only participated in big roles of said crisis.

But people that talk about killing baby Hitler and talking about if its moral or not are not only evil because thinking of killing an infant is already a psicopath sign, but they are also stupid by not seeing the bigger picture of why the crisis started, because they would need to not only critisize the actual past of their countrys, but also critisize the massive errors of imperialism and capitalism, while agreeing with the fact that socialism was the best thing that could have happened on the situation.

I recommend reading the comment thread in the archive

  • Camarada Forte
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    262 years ago

    If Hitler was killed, another “Hitler” would represent the interests of the fascists. Fascism is a product of financial capital

  • @lxvi@lemmygrad.ml
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    142 years ago

    I think the same. The German people were made ready by their education, especially true for the intellegensia. Prime example of this was the living space doctorine. Nations were explained as organisms subject to the law of the jungle. In order for stronger nations to survive they were required to devour their neighbors and displace their people. The Germans were following that national doctorine.

  • Essentially, killing baby Hitler would achieve nothing because another Hitler would take his place. Hitler was a product of his time, but he was not a unique product.

  • NasgorTikusEnjoyer
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    2 years ago

    Even in the hypothetical that killing baby hitler would stop ww2, i still don’t get/believe the people that would do it. Like bro thats a lil baby he wont even have the hitler moustache yet.