When you converse with westoids you know some of them aren’t dumb as bricks and actually question some things. But when it comes to questioning the mainstream narrative it is like they turn their brains off.

I was watching kurzgesagt and The hated one and they have a few political vids that make you die of cringe. These two very informative channels are fucking braindead when it comes to mainstream narratives. Probably the same case with every other good westoid channel.

Are westerners inherently dumb or something?

  • kretenkobr2@lemmygrad.ml
    27·
    3 years ago

    To me it is just that they don’t apply the scientific thinking to politics because they don’t believe it is applicable there.

    I had a conversation with my centrist friend and he was like: “I urge you to keep an open mind when looking at China in order to see what is really going on there.” (He knows I am pro CPC)

    My answer was: “I accept your urge, but I urge you not to fall into nonfalsifiable orthodoxy and to look at history and the present in a materialist manner.”

    His response? “I can’t, because that would mean that I would have to say that for example Stalin was OK. And if you look at the world in that manner then the correct answer is that collectivism is better than individualism. All that goes against my moral values.”

      • KommandoGZD@lemmygrad.ml
        21·
        3 years ago

        Spot on. This is the essence of it. Media, education, politics and broader society presents them with the normative “moral” conclusions, they then have to reason backwards following the dogma of anti-communism for fear of social flack, material interest, etc.

        This is extremely apparent in the last couple of days with mainstream Ukraine stans having to wrestle with the reality of the impending Ukrainian defeat. This reality is smacking them in the face so hard they can’t ignore it any longer, but they also can’t admit it, because the conclusion has long been established - Ukraine will win. Going against this dogma has increasingly severe social consequences, so they can’t. Same applies to them analyzing China, the USSR and the like.