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    Be careful not to say anything positive about luigi because you’re certainly going to end up on a priority list of people they are going to keep a lot of surveillance on. It’s true, feds are terrified of people who seem inspired by things like this. If you say something really really nice about Luigi, the feds might even send you one of their female undercover agents to be your girlfriend for a while and spy on you.

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    I just saw the news that they’ve charged him with terrorism. It’s like they want to keep the outrage going, and give the jury a reason to acquit.

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      Not guilty. You can only murder human beings. Brian Robert Thompson willingly relinquished his humanity a long time ago. What Luigi did was more akin to using bleach to treat mold in the bathroom. Killing a living thing? Yes. Murder? Certainly not.

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      They can charge him with whatever they want. Proving it to a jury is a whole other thing.

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    id rather people focus on the lessons learned.

    as long as this puts fear back into the burgeoise i aint complaining too much.

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    I mean could also go out like the guy who everyone would remember, who burned himself for some cause and everyone just forgot about him. Man, what a thing

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    Mangione has tapped into something most Americans share: a deep hatred of our health insurance system and of the profiteers who seem so indifferent to our suffering and death. He has still not been mentioned by Donald Trump, who must realize that Mangione’s fandom has no political boundaries.

    Wow even DT can’t touch this

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      This whole story is ripe for conspiracy theory. Comparable to Epstein’s arrest and suicide from back in 2020.

      Even if the national media wants the story to go away, you’re going to have Luigi enthusiasts popping up on the social fringe for years, if not decades.

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        Exactly. We are a society where innocent children are gunned down in their classrooms every other day. And for once, finally, one of the gunman actually decided to smite someone who deserved it. If you’re at the point of being willing to throw your life away in an act of murderous violence, why die a villain, when you can die a hero?

        We should be building statues of Luigi.

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        I can’t wait to see the NPR article titled “Luigi Mangione was [aquitted/convicted/excuted] years ago. Why do week keep hearing his name in comment sections?”, and I’ll see this NPR article like 5-6 years from now.

        Epstien died ~5 years ago, yet I still keep seeing people talking about him.

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        DDD

        444

        Out of curiosity I looked up “444” and there’s a bunch of links saying it means a guardian angel. Appropriate?

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          4 is avoided in Chinese and Japanese. Although contextually its not too far off the mark in this case.

          in JP, 4 sounds like ‘shi’, meaning death. 43 sounds like the word for ‘stillbirth’. (‘shi’ also means particle, or also emoticon) In China, 4 = ‘death’, 14 = ‘must die’, 24 = ‘easy to die’

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            Yes, but for reasons I don’t remember at the moment, “444” is considered joyful laughter, not danger. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

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              So we have guardian angel, “death”, and “joyful laughter” associated with 444, that all fits.

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          It sounds like what you’re reading is an “angle number.” I’m not sure if that’s what’s referenced above.

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    the bullet etchings alone make it a work of art. He picked out the absolute most unloved plutocrat in america. Its very much a masterwork execution at a time when everybody wanted a reprieve from the trump media circus.

    Timing: 10/10

    Execution: 9/10

    Target 10/10

    Style: 10/10

    We live in a country this happens every day I would take a CEO death over a Sandy Hook every time. I wish shootings weren’t as common but it is what it is.

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      Personally I would appreciate the irony of school shooters instead going after gun manufacturer executives. I like my justice delivered ironically.

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      If we were the principled society we pretend to others that we are, we would prefer 100 ceos to 1 Sandy Hook. CEO’s would be all for it as well.
      But capitalism doesnt breed a lot of impulses to sacrifice for the greater good. “eff those peasants” is practically explicitely baked into it.

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      the absolute most unloved plutocrat in america.

      Too bad that’s not trump :(

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        I don’t know. Trump is special. I’m hoping more "divine smiting’ for him. For a man that so seems to have the Devil’s charisma behind him, what more fitting end could there be than to die by lightning strike?

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        With my limited view from Germany, thank God that it is not Trump. Presidents come and go, Democrats and Republicans swap places every now and then, but at the end, the US stays an oligarchy. By killing Trump you don’t change much, you might create a public outrage, but it’s like popping a pimple without addressing the acne. It might lead to an even bigger divide within the working class - those who were fooled into voting for Trump vs Democrats vs disappointed, disillusioned Democrats. One of the problems of the election was that not enough left leaning people saw the Democrats as much different from the Republicans, and they are right. Killing a politician would just distract from the problem even more. Just think of how much momentum Trump (and his movement) gained from the assassination attempt.

        Here, for once in months, when we see tiktoks or other clips from the public, we cannot even tell immediately where they lean politically - we just see that everyone is fed up with the same crap. Now both left and right, united, experience how the media lies to them and tells a skewed narrative. This is amazing. I sincerely hope it will not die, I hope this will grow and continue to spread like a cancer through society.

        It is sad that it took the murder of a person and a young man’s freedom for this.

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          No no, I didn’t say I wish for him to be shot - that’s for separate discussion - I just wish he was the most unloved. Daydreaming…

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            The key is to publicly wish for his death in a way that no person could actually carry out. Then it’s not a death threat. Wish for him to get cancer. Wish for him to have a heart attack. Wish for him to die from auto-erotic asphyxiation. Wish for him to be struck by lightning. Wish for a giant sinkhole to open up directly beneath his feet, swallow him whole, and close up behind him, as if Hell itself reached up to finally claim him, the Devil finally collecting on some contract signed long ago.

            It’s not a death threat if you ask God or the Devil to do the dirty work for you!

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        Don’t give up hope. He’s had 3 attempts already, hoping #4 is a better shot

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        I’m still waiting for his bullet proof alibi to emerge. So far, the closest I’ve gotten is some mumbling about a false flag and “big news coming, watch this space”.

        Feels like the “Luigi is a fall guy” folks stumbled half drunk out of a “Sandy Hook Was Crisis Actors” convention.

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        That’s conceptually backward to how our justice system (on paper) determines guilt. It has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Luigi did it. Nobody else needs to be convicted or even accused for Luigi to be determined to be innocent.

        And there are some good reasons to doubt from what we’ve seen as the public. The cops said they found his backpack in NY but then also found him with his backpack. The pictures don’t quite match. It doesn’t make sense for him to keep incriminating evidence on him in a McDonald’s. There’s a lot about it that stinks.

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    Most definitely, he isn’t the unibomber largely indiscriminately killing people based on some ideological manifesto, he targeted someone in charge of driving many families into bankruptcy if not outright murdering patients with denials, and targeted a problem that many know to be true. They may be trying to rewrite the legacy of the CEO, but he was not “one of the good guys”.

    Although there is some crossover to the unibomber’s manifesto, in the sense that where this would have been the breaking point in societies of the past waiting for a revolution, the new means of control and technology is being used to keep it under control, from all sides, even and specially those that abused social networks to put Trump in power. Can’t have the status quo of “[I can] stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody [but not you]” challenged.

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      Most definitely, he isn’t the unibomber largely indiscriminately killing people based on some ideological manifesto, he targeted someone in charge of driving many families into bankruptcy if not outright murdering patients with denials, and targeted a problem that many know to be true.

      By my math, Brian Robert Thompson killed 40,000 people.

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        There’s a lot of overlap.

        In recent years, around 30% of newly appointed board members in the S&P 500 have been active or retired CEOs.

        And:

        CEOs and directors with financial backgrounds constitute 59% of the incoming class of S&P 500 directors…

        Source, for whatever it’s worth. I admittedly just did a cursory Google search out of curiosity and that’s what popped up, but I had a feeling it’d be a significant percentage.