STOP TRYING TO INSTALL COPILOT
Linux is of course the based solution but I feel you. Windows has gotten so fucking bad since 10, to the point where I feel like 10 was the first windows version I’ve personally used that has gotten WORSE during its life cycle.
95 and XP had popular service pack updates that improved things immeasurably.
Vista had a bunch of updates and service pack shit that largely solved a load of people’s complaints with it by the end.
7 was goated with the sauce the whole time.
8 had 8.1 which was basically Win 10 lite. Not as good as 7 for most people but the .1 upgrade was the biggest improvement for a Windows version imo.
Now Windows 10 has just gotten shittier and shittier; It peaked around 2021. Even before I got onto Linux (and became biased) they were stuffing adware and toolbar shit into the desktop almost every update, and even with Win11 in full swing they’ve tried shoehorning AI crap into 10 anyway. What could’ve been another Windows 7 ended up being about as bad to use as 8.1.
Use the people’s operating system, Comrade!
Fedora Linux Awaits
Ugh. I mostly main linux but on this gaming laptop it came with win 11 and I had to jump through hoops to downgrade it to win 10. This is the last time I windows.
I just thought I might want to run games natively. I don’t.
I saw you said something bout Google Drive. You can sync google drive and one drive and all that shit on linux. Just need to find an application you like that provides that functionality and then do, you know, the thing. Eg. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Insync <- haven’t used it but allegedly you can sync to the google and microsoft cloud storage shits using this tool, letting you basically mount them to your local filesystem.
Not saying you should use arch linux, their wiki is just usually very comprehensive as far as finding out how people solve various problems. A solution described on there can usually be applied to some other distro, with adjustments for that other distro’s particular quirks and configuration.
Alternatively, and I hate to suggest this, but buying a second hand macbook will get you out of the microsoft ecosystem while being accessible enough that you don’t need to learn and get used to a bunch of new things before you can confidently get back on with using the machine productively.
I tried changing the time format in windows 11 and I had to go through like 4 submenus
Had to “upgrade” our computers to win11 at work last month, everything runs worse and everybody agrees its utter garbage.
On the bright side this has helped me convince one of my coworkers to try Linux on their home computer.
Comrade, Were preparing to deploy W11 at work and I’m not excited by the prospect of attempting to gut all the bullshit found inside that monstrous turd of an operating system.
Linux is the only option.
Not because FOSS is glorious and the most communist your computer can be without violating the DMCA. Though it is also that, and you can seed generously from a machine running Linux.
Not because Linux is much better lately. It is BTW.
Not because using a system that is designed intelligently and respects you as a fucking adult and might not always be easy to use, but won’t generally fight you, so solving problems feels collaborative rather than like youre a persecuted victim about to have everything you just learned and built crushed with the next patch feels really good and generally is an improving cool experience. Though, I mean, that should be enough on its own, right?
But because capitalism is in late stage decline and everything it touches is going to turn to shit and exploit you and surveil you and coerce you and infantipize the fuck out of you and you’ll have to get on your knees and crush yourself in terrible ways to check your fucking email or you’ll have to fight it tooth and nail every god damn inch fighting a different system each time you want to check your fucking email or see a naked picture of a hot person-even one they took for and sent to you directly.
Last time I tried Linux there was no native Google Drive application and none of the third party ones worked properly to sync my files. Has that changed at all?? Don’t tell me to stop using Google Drive I’m locked in for work
If you’re interested in switching over and that’s the only hang up, I can give a few solutions a try on my machine at home this weekend and let you know if there are options for you that might not have come up through forum posts.
I know a lot of times when something gets added and “just works” no one bothers to talk about it so you don’t know until you poke around yourself!
That would be incredible. The main thing is that it needs to sync the files from cloud to desktop and vice versa like the first party application does. Most of the work arounds provide remote access to files from the desktop, but I actually need them physically synced on the drive.
You could always run Google Drive online, or run it with a Brave (Chromium) Web App, which would run the web version in an application displayed on your desktop. I don’t know if this is the kind of thing you’re looking for, I’m just trying to think of solutions.
The problem is that I need the actual files to sync to my desktop and the cloud which appears to be the sticking point
Yeah, I don’t know if there’s a way to do that. That’s rough…
Yeah, frustrating because I tried to switch a couple of years ago and mostly really liked it, but I really need this one thing to work
I really hope you find a way to get it working one day, it’s annoying to have everything working nicely except for that ONE THING.
Maybe I’ll just break down and get the paid program. Idk. I really don’t want Windows 11
Unfortunately I have already read through this, and only the paid, non-Foss solution actually syncs files as far as I can tell
sometimes it do be like that
if a windows reinstall ever comes up, can try the https://atlasos.net/ mod that uses official windows .iso files but prevents them from installing the bad stuff
I have no clue; I don’t touch that corpo garbage, but if there’s not and yyou can’t, and wine doesn’t work:
Run a windows (or android? Android seems lighter) VM, give it no permissions it doesn’t need, sandbox the fuck out of it, then sync from there.
Edit: quick search reveals likeliest solutions are tied into the ux… Thingies, forget what they’re called. Like KDE and gnome. Try the one for yours; gnome and KDE generally have their shit together.
The constant tension between “Try Linux! It’s so easy” and a reply like this
I know this is mostly Google’s fault, but I just can’t switch if doing this is required to run a program I need to use daily
The constant tension between “Try Linux! It’s so easy” and a reply like this
Sorry, this made me have to hold back my laughter so much on the train that I repeatedly snorted. EVERY LINUX SOLUTION REPLY IS LIKE THIS.
Youre married to a specific corpo shit thing that is shit and specifically does not support Linux, on purpose. Google is fighting you, they are making this hard. And your ux (probably gnome or KDE) is what looks like it has the solution here. Try that instead of acting like a libchild. Dual boot or whatever til you find a thing that works (windows updates gave been known to kill dual boots partitioned on same physical drive)
And the reason to switch isn’t because it’s ‘so easy’. I made a kind of linger post somewhere in this thread on it.
Like I said, I’m well aware this is mostly because Google refuses to make a Linux client. Also the UX solutions you mentioned are ones I’ve already looked at and they don’t actually sync the files, which is what I need. The one program (Insync) that actually seems to do this is not FOSS and costs $40 per account
And it looks like there are Linux tools that do what6ou want, integrated into at least the two major UX’s.
Might I entice you to try maybe a Linuc or two?
I am open to trying Linux, but how can I make it as close to the Windows 10 experience as possible so I can baby step into it?
ZorinOS, Mint, or Kubuntu sound ideal for you.
Linux mint? Idk never tried it but i heard its similar, im also wanring to start this journey of changing from win to linux
The Wubuntu suggestion above looks pretty good, might try that first!
https://wubuntu.org/ ubuntu that has a cloned windows ui to help ease transition
This is exactly what I wanted! Thank you!
Use KDE plasma.
Why I switched to Fedora earlier this year,
I still technically dual boot with Windows, but I didnt boot it for months now,
The biggest stumbling block I had was gaming, but frankly it kinda is smooth sailing on Linux nowadays, I even got Escape from Tarkov to run on my machine, which wasnt really guaranteed, and I don’t have any problem using Steam (or GOG through Lutris)
I will probably just completely get rid of Windows in the future
I’ve been using Fedora 40 (KDE spin) for a few months now. I am very impressed with how stable and fast it’s been on my budget several-years-old all-intel laptop with only 8GB RAM. I did got the notification about Fedora 41 being available but I’m one of those weirdos who hangs back a full release for at least a few months (regardless of distro) for stability reasons.
I had an easier time getting fonv to run smoothe on Linux than I did on windows 8.
And 11’s compatibility is even worse.
also this will be useful
“How to install FitGirl or DODI Windows repacks in Linux using Lutris.”
I indeed made good use of this thread
i have been wondering if running vortex, the nexus mods client through Lutris would make getting those 2500 mod collections feasible again
it would mean that you’d need the game in the Lutris system too, otherwise it wont find the game though.I’ve had better luck with MO2, though the replacement for Vortex will be linux native
MO2
yeah, but you can’t get the collections that are hosted on nexus. Would need to use the wabbajack lists and I don’t know if that works with linux either
Linux native vortex
yeah i saw that, hopefully it’ll be better than the current program is tbh, everything has been made so safe that you can’t configure things in easy ways anymore. Skyrim load order changing is a pain with all the rules that you have to place, instead of MO2 with just “click and drag”
You can move collections to MO2 from Vortex with the Mod Manager Migrator.
There has also been some success in using wabbajack in linux
Thank youuuuu
more links into my ever expanding linux bookmark folder
You probably would need to run it in the same prefix as the game you’re trying to mod
It’s worth a shot at least
my partner @Anvil_Lavigne@hexbear.net was last on windows 10, we finally got them a new laptop and they were so against windows 11 we installed linux and they’re taking to it so so well
like usually when i help someone install linux i am literally running tech support for 6 months
like usually when i help someone install linux i am literally running tech support for 6 months
I do the same. I like to think of it more as the computer equivalent of an ML reading group. A privilege to help, not a chore to wade through.
i am up for it and i know that it’s likely to come when people switch. and i warn them as well. but particularly if it’s someone remote, i find it hard to help and they don’t always give me enough infos to help tho partner is not remote but it’s like i say “give me laptop” and they ask me to tell them how instead. they’re learning so fast and being really proactive with learning terminal and finding commands online etc i’m just proud of them
The past <5 years gave been so good for Linux usability.
oh yeah absolutely. but it’s still a bit of a culture shock, and u can’t really avoid terminal etc
I don’t try to avoid terminal, so I wouldnt know, but, counterpoint:
If you want modern windows to work at all, you can’t really avoid fucking around in registry.
I recently switched to linux mint and have had no serious issues at all. In fact I like it more than windows and it isn’t full of crap and spyware
Are the volume and screen brightness as good quality? And does the Bluetooth work? These are issues that I had with Mint.
Mint is usually a year or so behind for kernel updates because it is a LTS (long term support) distribution. It should really only be used on older hardware for people who want stability and won’t be using anything newer.
For best hardware support you need newer kernels, so use a more updated distribution like Fedora (Red Hat) or EndeavorOS (Arch)
Thanks for the tip!
That probably depends on your specific hardware. You could always download a VM and try running Mint on that to check.
I personally have had no issues whatsoever with hardware.
That’s good to know. I’ll try playing around.
Linux Gang 
Fucking right? I need to get better at linux. My mint install keeps crashing in weird ways but i haven’t cared enough to fix it.
I’m lucky in that almost all software i use that isn’t games is foss already.
Fucking “ai”
Hey what if you had a personal assistant who couldn’t do anything right and was always slpurnned out of their mind on halucinogens?
Anyone else have their firefox keep crashing on Linux Mint? Particularly when I’m on websites like discord or youtube that aren’t just text.
Yes, same. Haven’t taken the time to look in to it but I’m having it a lot. Remving the default install of FF and pulling it from the repository or program library or whatever it’s called on Linux reduced the frequency of crashes a lot but they still happen.
And also was snitching on you to literally every corporation and all your least favorite governments! Also maybe some of the ones you like, if you like any and have great access.
Hey what if you had a personal assistant who couldn’t do anything right and was always slpurnned out of their mind on halucinogens?
i’d be okay with this if they were human tbh
They’d provide company and be fun, unlike the cold robotic eye of a windows machine that dissects you in to consumer categories and then sends a unique code describing the position of your moles, which are not shared by anyonje else, to the NSA’s death squad division.
Okay but they also inform on you to literally every fed agency billionaire and corporation, and everything they bring you that isn’t ‘put glue on pizza’ was an ad.
Ubuntu is nice. I had mint on my desktop, but I just like Ubuntu way better. I find Ubuntu to be the Windows of Linux, without all of the spyware/malware shit. It’s the most popular, it’s kept up to date, and it works out of the box.
I’m typing this on Ubuntu from a Windows Surface Laptop Go. This little ultrabook is hella cursed and it just… worked. Ironically, the 5 minutes I used windows 11 on this thing were chugging like hell. This is an Ubuntu only device now.
I have one of those windows surface tablets from an ill-considered mania/panic purchase years ago and I rarely use it because the touch interface is so wretched on windows. :(
I havent had Mint, but can strongly recommend ZorinOS. It’s really polished and they have an Android App (works on GrapheneOS) which makes it an even nicer experience. I only dual boot into windows just for FLStudio. Everything else works pretty nicely and been using it now for 1-2 yrs
