The ex-president went on a full defense of Israel's ongoing slaughter in Gaza, while campaigning for Harris in the Arab-heavy swing state.
  • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    2 months ago

    “I understand why young Palestinian and Arab Americans in Michigan think too many people have died, I get that,” Clinton said to the quiet crowd in Muskegon. “But if you lived in one of those kibbutzim in Israel, right next to Gaza, where the people there were the most pro-friendship with Palestine, most pro-two state solution of any of the Israeli communities … and Hamas butchered them.”

    He is a demon

    This is an SS officer explaining why he just had to wipe out the Warsaw Ghetto

    • USSR Enjoyer@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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      2 months ago

      The worst part was what he followed that up with

      The people who criticize Israel are essentially saying, ‘Yeah, but look how many people you’ve killed in retaliation, how many is enough for you to kill to punish them for the terrible things they did?’ That all sounds nice until you realize what you would do if it was your family and you hadn’t done anything but support a homeland for the Palestinians, and one day they come for you and slaughter the people in your village.

      Yeah. Sure. The genocidal settlers living on stolen land, in stolen houses, haven’t done anything but support Palestinians.

      target-triangle

    • Anarcho-Bolshevik@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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      2 months ago

      The pogroms (veritable mass murder episodes) that took place in 1940 and 1941, such as the Iași Pogrom, were publicly justified by alleged Jewish armed subversion against [Axis] soldiers.⁴⁰

      Reading about the alleged Jewish attacks against the army in Iași (June 1941), some better-informed Romanians, such as former Prime Minister Argetoianu, recorded their disbelief in the accusations: “The [insert slur here] have no weapons.”⁴¹ Despite the antisemitic slur, Argetoianu was right. Romanian Jews lacked weapons and military organization, key elements for any armed resistance.

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      The agreement that the Jews of Kiev had to be killed in “retaliation” for the bombings and arson amounted to a diversionary maneuver. The [Axis] officers merely seized on them as a justification for the murders, which had been planned in advance on ideological grounds. The term “retaliation” was intended to create the impression of military necessity and thus justify it in the eyes of soldiers and members of the SS.⁸⁷

      (Source.)

    • Maeve@lemmygrad.ml
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      2 months ago

      That is a man.

      Men Humans are capable of things considered god like and demonic, but that is a man. Dehumanization of Palestinians is how the genocide began and how it is perpetuated.

      • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        2 months ago

        He may be Homo sapien but someone who is that flippant about a genocide that he is currently condoning has forsaken any connection to humanity. I don’t see how someone can say “sure you think we’ve murdered too many of your friends and family but have you considered it’s their fault for attempting to fight back against those who have kept them in a concentration camp for decades” and still have any humanity. There is not a single ounce of compassion in that man.

      • amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml
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        2 months ago

        Would you prefer the term malignant psychopath? Or sociopath? Same general outcome in meaning, just more clinical. The way it comes across to me in a context like this, is it’s trying to convey how shockingly deceptive and anti-social a person is. It would be a different kind of thing to say “people with white hair are demons” or something. Bill Clinton can choose not to say victim-blaming things, but he can’t choose what his natural hair color is.

        • Maeve@lemmygrad.ml
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          2 months ago

          Would you prefer the term malignant psychopath? Or sociopath? Same general outcome in meaning, just more clinical

          Yes.

    • GlueBear @lemmygrad.ml
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      2 months ago

      I don’t think Democrats will ever win again. This just solidifies the theory that they will have learned the exact opposite of the lessons they should have learned.

      • USSR Enjoyer@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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        2 months ago

        The US political system is designed to swing back and forth between two right-wing parties. It would be less successful at dividing people and keeping out opposing ideas if only one party won all the time, and they know it.

        The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there’s free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate."

      • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        2 months ago

        I don’t think the Dems are going anywhere unless the Reps decide to say “fuck it” and openly embrace dictatorship. It’s just too valuable to the system as a whole to have two options, or at least the appearance of two options, for people to squabble over. With a single party that’s a single point to lay all your grievances on and a single entity to blame.

        Both parties have the same ultimate goal of catering to the bourgeoisie but it’s incrediblely valuable to have the optics of wider support.

      • cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
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        2 months ago

        They absolutely will win again, probably as soon as four years from now when the vast majority of Americans will have forgotten the Democrats’ failures and the atrocities that the Democrats supported (if they ever even cared about those), while the atrocities that the Republicans will have supported and them equally failing to improve the material situation of the majority of people will be fresh in their minds.

        As things will get worse and worse people will always blame whoever is in power and will choose the other side. The only question is how long can the ruling class can keep this shell game going, and my guess is quite long. People have short political memories and always want to delude themselves into thinking that this time it will be different.