Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones is seeking to protect his personal social media accounts from being sold in the upcoming auction of his Infowars media platform to pay more than $1 billion he owes relatives of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, claiming selling those accounts would violate his privacy and deny him a chance to make a fresh start after bankruptcy.

The trustee overseeing the liquidation and selloff of the assets of Infowars and its parent company Free Speech Systems, asked a federal judge on Friday to include the social media accounts as part of the auctions scheduled for November and December. The judge delayed a decision on the matter for at least a week.

Jones’ lawyers argue the personal media accounts that use his real name are not owned by Infowars or FSS, but are controlled by him personally, and should be considered part of his “persona” that cannot be owned by someone other than himself.

  • ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    13 hours ago

    So fuck Alex Jones, but I really don’t think it’s a good idea to force people to sell their accounts so that other people can impersonate them. It’s just inviting social engineering attacks.

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      Except in this case, much like with Trump, His business and his person were deeply intertwined. So the account is a business asset. And as such, it is subject to being an asset of the company. Maybe he should have separated them at some point.

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        If the Wendys burger chain was sold, there would be no problem with the new owner taking the Wendys social media accounts. In this case Jones has long used his social media accounts as part of his business. They’re part of the Infowars assets so they can and should be handed over to debtors to settle the claims against Infowars.

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    They argue that trustee Christopher Murray does not have a right to the social media accounts as property that can be sold, and warned that a purchaser could face lawsuits as to whether they were rightfully obtained.

    I’d like to buy it and start posting LGBTQ-positive content. I’m not part of the coalition. I just think it’d be fun to watch people react.

    Jones is appealing the civil jury verdicts, citing free speech rights and questioning whether the families proved any connection between his comments and the people who harassed and threatened the relatives. He has since acknowledged that the shooting did happen.

    Yeah, Margie TG just happened to follow a kid shouting at him for being part of a coverup and recording it on her phone be coincidence. It’s not because she gets her talking points from this asshole.

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    What’s stopping him from just making infowars2?

    His rage is his commodity, so I don’t get why he can’t just start up a new channel and just do the exact same thing.

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      What’s stopping him from just making infowars2?

      The law, basically. Taking his assets elsewhere to “hide” them from his creditors constitutes fraud.

      He even tried to already, but that was shot down by the judge, who made him swear under oath to not try that again. Which he already IS doing, very blatantly.

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      He would still be in arrears for this judgement , as the seizures and auctions won’t actually cover all of the award. So, Infowars 2 would just be taken as well.

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    We should all pitch in some cash to buy them and use them to start posting pro-Fediverse, pro-FOSS and privacy-related stuff.

    Yeah, it might bring in some crazies, but the Fediverse can handle that better than most places.

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    What’s the worst that can happen? Someone buys it and starts hawking boner pills? Yeah, that ain’t exactly gonna ruin his good name.

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      Think bigger, someone gets the accounts and releases all of his private messages. If he doesn’t delete them. I’m on the fence about the precident this would set.

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      I’m hoping that the important assets get sold to the Knowledge Fight podcast. They’d be the ones able to do the most good with them.

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    This seems very bizarre to me. Is the argument, someone could make money off your account therefore it’s an asset that can be sold off? Next I suppose we should sell his body off into prostitution.

    Still, nice to see Lemmy wholeheartedly supporting capitalism for once…

    Ooh, I know, next force him to sell his Steam account!

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      I think it has more to do with the fact that he uses his twitter account mostly to advertise his business, making it more of a business account than a personal account even though it has his name on it.

      Edit:

      In seeking the rights to the social media accounts, the legal team for the trustee argued in court filings that Jones’ X account, and others on Telegram, Gab, Parler and other platforms, “are frequently used to promote and post Infowars content, and in some cases, have a significant number of followers.” Jones’ X account has nearly 3 million followers.

      The trustee argued that social media accounts of influencers, celebrities and political personalities have become valuable assets, and that Jones’ accounts have drawn particular interest from multiple parties in buying them.

      From the article neither of us bothered to read.

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        I don’t think that changes it. He uses the likeness of his face also; if some ad company wants to buy the rights to the likeness of his face is he forced to sell?

        True I didn’t read the article though.

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          His billion dollar settlement won’t be discharged through this bankruptcy, so his wages will probably be garnished for the rest of his life as it is. I really don’t have any sympathy for him, and taking the social media account he’s been using for his business as part of that business’s liquidation really doesn’t feel like a big deal.

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            The precedent troubles me. That a media account in a personal name, even if through that one does commercial or objectionable things, can become a commodity to buy and sell - and be forced to sell.

            The same precedent applies to ordinary people too. Should a debt collector acquire your Facebook page? Because you used Facebook marketplace it’s now a business asset?