China will not save us. The global proletariat must rise up.
NOWHERE did I say I oppose China. I just thought this was an interesting video. Watch the fucking thing before hating and yelling about ultras.
China will not save us. The global proletariat must rise up.
NOWHERE did I say I oppose China. I just thought this was an interesting video. Watch the fucking thing before hating and yelling about ultras.
Fellow Traveler makes clear he supports the USSR til the end and is hopeful about China.
Last I used that argument I got the response “why tf should I expect people who don’t know what socialism is to tell me what is socialist.” I didn’t know what to say. They’d say the same if China were just a rival capitalist tbh. Republicans and democrats both get slandered as socialists.
That said, I am hopeful about China and no one in their right mind wants war with China. Everyone can agree the rest of the world needs to have it’s revolution before China can dissolve into full communism.
The Soviet model is not the only model of socialism.
That’s what this issue devolves down to, at the end of the day, and I disagree with that underlying belief.
Agreed, those “China is not socialist” people hold the steadfast opinion that socialism is “when like the USSR or China under Mao”, completely ignoring the dialectical aspect of it all or the simple fact that socialism is a process and not a discrete thing.
And the process is never going to be a cookie-cutter clone of any previous one, if it wants to succeed, because the material conditions are never identical. It won’t do!
Yes, it’s a process, and a transitory state, ultimately.