The one thing that going to a real casino taught me is that, despite what Hollywood would have us believe, casinos are not full of impeccably dressed classy people, but very old retirees that look like they only have a few years left to live, and disheveled men who look less well dressed than me in my PJs at home, who are gambling away large sums of money in a fit of anxiety and addiction.

Really depressing crap.

That makes me think of the chinese guys that took cash from the bank they worked at to buy lottery tickets. The idea was to use the winnings to pay back the money and keep the rest.

They got lucky and it worked the first time. Then they decided to try again and lost.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_Bank_of_China_robbery

The guy who started FedEx literally put his company’s payroll on a roulette table just to make enough to stay in business.

Work at a rutters. had multiple guys who were serious come in with like 20 $1 and 5 $20 every other day. We had one guy who’d buy $100-$200 every visit (up to 3 times a day). Must’ve been in his 50s but he said his wife didn’t know. Scratch offs scare me now I’ve only ever seen one $1500 win but I’d only work part time so.

“No, you don’t understand! I have an angle!”

Our national betting company has started showing “stimulated” football games for people to bet on, with screens showing highlighted actions and all… It’s so depressing.

Who in their right mind is accepting returns of lottery tickets, scratched or not???

Three million is the joke, 8% is the hint that it’s a joke. It’s the same sort of satire that Lemmy frequently reposts. “I became wealthy with hard work, determination, and a small loan of a million dollars.”

Well, both of us are socialists (I can’t comment on the other person). We think about money in such a different way that any money joke about investment is going to lose it’s humor. I don’t understand it as a joke either, but I definitely understood the financial advice. He selected some large, relatively uncontroversial companies that will pay you part of the quarterly profits based on the number of stocks you own. Tbh I’d avoid the day trading and choose high dividend ETFs instead. $100k is still very out of reach for most people, but it’s a reasonable investing portfolio.

Yep those 10 percent accounts got me laughed out of the bank. One banker did helpfully ask how much I made though. Actually that was what set off the laughing. At any rate that was the year I learned rice stretches any food. No relation I’m sure.

Thank you. That was a really good explanation. I don’t know much about the way this shit works, and I probably would have tried what the original post suggests if I had that kind of money.

So is Berkshire Hathaway.

A year ago we didn’t know the market would grow so much, or at all.

A year ago, the expected annual yield on the NYSE was 6-8%. The treasury return for a year was 4%.

Today we don’t know if these trends will continue, stop, or even reverse.

“I don’t know if my plane will crash, so I drive everywhere in order to avoid that risk”.

The expected yield on market investments is higher than the expected yield on treasuries. The real value in treasuries is their convertibility to cash, hedged against the risk of inflation. You are losing money long term if you are putting your retirement income in treasuries.

The whole point of bonds is that they be more stable

The point of low-yield low-risk bonds is that they can be quickly converted to cash when better investment opportunities arise. Alternatively, to be spent on consumer goods and services.

I dont have to worry about the dow contracting with a treasury bond.

Point to a five year period in which the DOW ended lower than when it started.

If you’re operating at the scale of a high yield treasury, you’d be far better off in the market over the long term.

If I can get $20k a month with one of the safest investments around

8% Treasuries don’t exist. The current treasury rate is closer to 4.5% during a period of 2.5% inflation. Higher treasury rates tend to be paired with higher Fed Reserve rates, which tend to occur during periods of high inflation. So the hypothetical 8% Treasury will only be available during periods of 5%+ inflation anyway. You’re still only netting real gains of 2-3%.

Its a safe hedge against a downturn when you only care about preserving your liquidity. It’s a real risk when you consider the possibility of a bull run. You’re effectively losing money when equities surge while you’re setting on a cash-convertible.

Over 5, they’ll rebound and exceed the trough.

Bruh 3m Brazilian reais is only like $550k. That’s like, a middle-class house.

Just 10 or 12 years ago or so, the US and EU had comparably sized economies. Today the EU economy is between 25% to 30% smaller than the US one. And yes, I include the UK in the EU calculations just to prove the point. The reason? Higher stability and growth on average. What might seem like small differences on a year-on-year basis add up and prove to be quite substantial in terms of decades.

So you can invest in Swedish and Swiss bonds and/or companies if you want, but chances are you’re gonna lose out compared to person investing in US-based entities.

Sincerely,

An EU citizens who is sick of hearing Americans bashing their own country based on ignorance. There’s plenty of reasons to be upset with and critical of the US. But an unstable economy is not one of them, relatively speaking. Get your facts straight.

Politically, maybe, but economically, the US remains a major powerhouse, and if nothing else, that might be the sole factor that makes them try to keep things stable.

It’s one of the few things much of the wealthy and the not-so-wealthy tend to both want, particularly for those who have a decent amount of wealth tied up in the American market, and a fair amount of money might be spent to that end.

But a lot of european countries are pushing pretty hard to not borrow and have a zero balance or positive budget. So e.g. Switzerland don’t sell that many bonds and yield on a lot of them is 0.5%, maybe 2% on long term ones vs around 4% for US ones.

Oh wow tell me more about Sweeeden. What knowledge do you have that makes you think that tiny economy is more stable than the US economy?

There is literally a gang war going on on the streets in sweden. How does that count as stable?

That article brushes over many things, like some of the big contributors to the economy being straight up amoral organisations that will do anything for money.

Nestlé, facing constant boycotts for things like the formula scandals, their damage to the rainforests, and so much more.

Big pharma running what you could call price rackets.

Banking sector which will happily take money from arms dealers and the like and turn a blind eye to that.

That all gets you a very profitable economy, sure, but not all is rosy.

Then you go to Geneva and somehow, despite all that sweet tax money, you still have buses from the 1980s and public buildings that haven’t seen a renovation in the last 60 years. The airport terminal is straight up run down if you compare it to European airports like Heathrow, Barajas, Schiphol…

Then people struggle with the cost of housing - median salary is around 6k CHF (monthly), with 2k of deductions that give you a 4k net. According to rentola.ch, the rental for a 1-bedroom flat in Geneva costs on average 3.2k CHF a month, meaning you need about 3x the median salary (!!) to be able to afford a 1-bedroom flat within the recommended 30% of your salary. Working hours are longer than the neighboring countries.

So yeah, they have a great economy because the numbers are skewed by many-million-francs salaries of the corporations in there. If you’re not in a C-suite or visiting as a Sheikh wanting to spend a few millions in Geneva, quality of life is absolutely nothing to write home about.

Yeah no, that’s not how information literacy works. An article on usnews.com proclaiming Switzerland as the best country in the world based on self-reporting is the opposite of objective. Making an international economics-based comparison takes more than a quick google search. And keep in mind some people actually live in unstable economies. So stop bashing your country for the sake of it.

Sincerely, An EU citizen who has lived in Switzerland and visited the US on numerous occasions.

Wait what, Federer is still playing?

And the article didn’t even mention the why behind the political stability, low corruption and respectfulness; the half-direct democracy: though not without faults (too influencable through media upheavals), even the 7 presidents are “just doing a special job” and can take public transport.