Repost of post I made on Genzedong. Actual handout I recieved during history class. And they say DPRK citizens are the ones hopelessly brainwashed.
Lmao:
- Allies entered Berlin, yeah I wonder which armies, probably the US?
- There was no Depression in USSR unless you count mourning for Lenin
- There was only one Great Purge, 2.6-2.8M, 600-800k people sentenced to death.
- Holodomor is a conspiracy theory
- There were no GulagS
Okay, Great Purge is a great example of why giving a lot of power to groups with not much oversight to speed up the trials enabling death sentences is not a great idea, and there’s no hiding from it, but inflating numbers to over 25M you get from Black Book of Communism to make purges seems worse than Holocaust carries a very clear class interest there.
I do like, however, how it says “Ends democracy in Germany/Italy”. One might simply gloss over it, but the (correct) logical implication is that there was democracy before which is how those guys came to power. Hmm…
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I’ve seen BBC post Western Ukraine newspaper excerpts about famine and saying that it’s them talking about Soviet Ukraine, so they probably shit themselves after posting realistic numbers
thats actually fucking hilarious, and so is the link
wait, there were totally gulags, not that i’m against them at all, but they were there
No gulagS. Just one, the acronym GULag itself means “chief administration of camps”. There were many camps and prisons under control of that one GULag, but that’s not really that different from most countries. Colloquially word “gulag” came to mean “any soviet camp or prison” and it sounds more alien for propaganda purposes but the list here pretends to be serious so arguably such use isn’t appropriate
Even in anticommunist propaganda Stalin is the best of them. “Died peacefully after the war” Chad
great to know Japan just “took over” southeast asia. I’m sure they must’ve bought it for a fair price or something.
“died peacefully after the war” hmm yes I wonder why everyone else on that list was murdered and suicided while Stalin was highly respected until the day he died
Really inaccurate. Even the picture of mussolini is turned 180°
Ayyyyy lmao
Here’s the creator of the term “totalitarianism” , hannah arendt, on “the dark races”:
@rodericday also has some really good threads about her.
…wow.
Well, coming from the same asshole who was famous for both‐sidesing fascism and communism, I guess that I shouldn’t act too surprised that she would both‐sides European colonialism and African indigenity either.
I absolutely hate Arendt, but for some reason, I have to read the Origins of Totalitarianism next quarter for college. Last quarter we read The Human Condition, and while I found some of her ideas interesting, especially her interpretation of common sense, most of them boil down to pretentious regurgitations of Marx, Engels, and other notable philosophers. Liberals can’t give Marx enough credit, so they need charlatans like Arendt to contort these “trendy” anti-capitalist beliefs into their acceptable, less radical view of the world. It’s also so frustrating how these academics will accept racist, pro-colonialist philosophers just to spite Marx. Unless you’re hardcore into philosophy, I don’t reccomend reading anything from Arendt. It’s better to read her inspirations.
Reminds me of how I was told communism was a form of fascism
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Slava Stalin
I wish I was a commie when I was in highschool. Do you ever just tell the teacher during the middle of class that America is the mass murder machine of the world and that all US Presidents are war criminals that deserved to be tried for crimes against humanity?
Idk I just get off to the idea of just absolutely fucking ripping into these disgusting agents of American institutions that don’t challenge shit.
I don’t have enough confidence to go off at my teacher for believing all of this shit. I do however play “devils advocate” whenever I can for communists and have routinely insulted the united states.
o7
I think about that from time to time as well.
I was the “lefty” in history and politics class, as a mddle of the road liberal. My teacher had run for office as a member of Canada’s Reform Party, they were backwards social conservatives.
If only he could see me now.
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Thank you for your service.
i hate that this is so similar to what i see in my history class, and i absolutely fucking hate myself for not seeing (other than the fabricated 30 million killed, “taking over” of SEAsia, or “italian mobs” killing mussolini) what exactly is wrong with it, damn my brainwashed mind!
Sure would we be awkward if you asked why he was a totalitarian leader while his resignation was rejected four times. Doesn’t sound very totalitarian to me.
Saying that, a classroom isn’t always the best place to tip the balance. I’m sure you’ll end up on some list if you protest too loudly.
Stalin’s greatest crime was melting his gargantuan spoon to build sturmoviks.
No no no, Stalin’s greatest crime was killing dozens of millions of innocents simply because he had nothing better to do with his time and authority; I bet that one day he got up and told Henryk Yagoda “Go massacre a bunch of innocent and peaceful people for me.” “How will that bring us closer to world socialism?” “Who cares.”
This reminds me of how my history teacher in high school would keep talking about how US Generals helped defeat the Nazis and what not but never, ever mentioned anything about the Soviets. Seriously, not a single word. I was bullied and super shy back then so I didn’t speak up but thinking about it a decade later makes me furious how garbage and brainwashing American education is.
The inasions in France, Italy and North Africa were big messes. The only reason the Allies managed to win those is that the bulk of German and Italian armies were engaged in running away from the Red Army.
Why no mention of Truman dropping an atomic bomb?
Because our teacher kept telling us that it was necessary to drop them on Japan
yeah if i recall correctly 10 billion were saved by using nukes for the first time, makes sense
exerts unlimited control over its citizen’s lives
In other words, a fantasy. It is true that states (including liberal ones, obviously) tend to become more invasive during times of crisis, but reaching this level of control would have been impossible even if the head of state wanted it. See the Third Reich, for example, where the lack of unity became especially apparent in 1945 as so many officials were disobeying their Chancellor’s orders.
‘Totalitarianism’ means jackshit. People, the reasons that anticommunists present this crude caricature of fascism is so that 1. you won’t recognise it when you see it, and 2. you won’t compare it to the centrist or neoliberal status quo.
uses propaganda to stay in control
That could be anything!
I love how libs 1) think any propaganda is evil, bad, and a sign of satan. 2) Think they are completely immune from most propaganda or at least “aware” 3) don’t realize that any form of media that expresses a political opinion is propaganda
Funny how they conveniently leave out who it was that got Mussolini. “Italian Mobs” wtf? Makes it sound like the Mafia killed him. No, it was Communist Partisans. And of course it was the Red Army that caused Hitler’s downfall.
