Personally, Gaza and his anti-railway workers union action was enough to destroy any credibility he had so far.

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    The solution is to recognize that this electoral system is a complete failure and acknowledge that it must be completely done away with in favor of something that works

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          What a meaningless reply lol

          If you tell someone that what they’re doing is pointless, you ought to be prepared to suggest a better course of action.

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            What a meaningless reply lol

            I like how you act as if no action can be valid other than vote, I mean you got told here and just acted like a fool whilst acting smug.

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              I just got told something that people that are also voting are also doing, and they’re pretending like they are doing something revolutionary by doing those things while refusing to vote lol.

              You guys are acting like leaving tools on the table is somehow going to get the job done faster.

              Utterly fucking delusional lol

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        So what are you actually going to DO?

        I’m going to do nothing, which is the same thing you’re doing, except i’m not jerking myself into a frenzied orgasm over how good it is i VOTED for the LESSER EVIL frothingfash

        If there weren’t so many blue maga morons like you who literally will support the DNC no matter what the democrats might have to actually, idk, change what they’re doing, but you’re too much of a fucking brainlet child to understand that your vote legitimizes their politics and actions

        I literally don’t understand how you can go through more than a single cycle of “vote for the lesser evil or things will get worse” where things get worse anyway without picking up some kind of fucking clue about this

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        what are you actually going to do?

        fedposting Incriminate yourself for meeeeeee

        Also since we both agree your vote is pointless, you aren’t doing anything either, so presenting this as if you’re coming from a position of action is both ridiculous and hilarious.

        Anyway I definitely haven’t done any sabotage. I also haven’t redistributed food to the houseless nor have I helped unionize a workplace or other stuff. I most certainly haven’t organised with other leftists and done local stuff, most certainly not.

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        Sure, but if you truly understood it you would realize that voting for Biden is exactly as useful as sitting right where you are.

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          So to truly understand that this electoral system is a complete failure is to do nothing? Or is there an alternative I can do that you haven’t mentioned yet? I have seen a lot of people argue against voting like this “because it’s worthless” or “because it supports genocide” while I have yet to see anyone propose something to do that is more actionable or directly effective than voting.

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            Better than voting would be to join a communist party and work towards dual power, especially in your workplaces/unions

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              I don’t see how that’s “better than voting.” Why are the two things worth comparing? Why can’t I do both? What makes voting inherently bad?

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                It is better than voting because you will help create the world in which we no longer have to choose between red or blue genocide, and more importantly no longer need to hash these dumb online arguments every 2 years

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                Voting for a genocide means that you are perfectly fine with getting your turn in the ovens later on.

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                  I can see you’re very capable of complex and nuanced thought -_-

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                You could do both. The thing to recognize is that voting is nothing. Nothing is accomplished by voting.