• spacecadet [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Scary hate-crime consequences aside, it is sociologically/psychologically fascinating to see cis straight men being forced to reckon with what the fuck even their sexual preferences are, what they actually entail, what the acceptable boundaries are in their mind, etc. etc.

    Being mired in cultural and social norms that were decided for you before you even gained self awareness seems exhausting and tragic.

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          Yeah. But are we sure they’re actually straight? Or guys?

          I posit that many of these instances are poor, unfortunate queers so completely subsumed by their internalized homophobia, biphobia, and transphobia that they’re in complete denial about the fact that they are not actually cishet men.

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            Some may be, but the stereotype of a self-hating closeted person puts the burden of homo/transphobia on the lgbtq community while there’s more than enough straight people managing to do it

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        The “all homophobes are secretly gay” thing is a pretty tired homophobic cliche

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    If you’re attracted to this body type in a woman it could be because the gay culture has gotten ahold of you

    That’s true, you could be attracted to this body type because you’re a lesbian.

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    BREAKING NEWS:

    Being attracted to twinks is now straight. We have talked to local twinks at a pride parade to interview them on what they think of this.

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    Ancient Masculinity

    Cool. Lets talk about hygiene in ancient times. Before makeup, shampoo, toothpaste and modern concepts of “femininity” existed.

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      Ancient Greeks and Romans (as this guy clearly idealizes, considering the pfp) were dandy as fuck, tbh. Gay (or bi) as fuck, too. They liked their masculinity, and they fetishized it arguably a whole lot more than femininity, with predictable (sexual) results.

      The “ancient times” this guy so loves, never existed outside his mind- or perhaps they did, but not with the “ancient Romans/Greeks/most ancient ‘civilized’ folk.” The notions of “masculinity” he subscribes to, in fact, would probably have seen this guy derided (accurately in this case) as a “barbarian…”

      This guy’s notions of masculinity are not only inspired by, if not wholly formed from the “barbarian” asscrack of Eurasia (western and northwestern Europe, though I’d call the genuine barbarism of the west a more recent thing, a product of 500 years of unparalleled barbaric behavior, perhaps much more considering the Crusades, both northern and southern) as the ancient civilizations saw it- but they’re inspired by the rot that festered in that asscrack following Christianization, the collapse of the Roman Empire at the hands of “barbarians,” and the gradual abandonment of much of the actual merits of that time (hygiene and sanitation, for instance).

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      I’ve thought about this before. I don’t think my sexual urges would have overcome the absolute ass stank produced before we discovered soap, regular bathing, and brushing teeth. I do seem to have a stronger sense of smell than most and find most people pretty gross already.

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        same… but then again if you never knew any different then maybe you’d be MORE attracted to stank than the average person? I’ve wondered that myself because i really can’t handle BO

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          Agreed, that’s what’s made me question it. Is it social conditioning? Idk, but I get unreasonably angry at people who are funky in inappropriate contexts. I still find it very unpleasant (including my own) in situations that are understandable/appropriate, but the anger isn’t there.

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            yeah im the same way

            today when my partner and i checked into a hotel the front desk guy smelled of BO stronger than I’ve ever smelled in my life and it immediately put me in a bad mood because it’s so offensive

            my partner commented as soon as we were outside that she couldn’t believe the pungent BO on that guy and she knew I was dying the whole time he was telling about our room and the breakfast etc

            i don’t get mad when someone steps off a plane and stinks because what can you do? but at work when your job is to interact with people is a different story

            again I’m far more sensitive to it than most others and i do my best to ignore it but today was a whole different level

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    It’s telling to me how fragile the gender binary is when people feel the need to police attraction lines based on such arbitrary physical characteristics as how much someone does bodybuilding or fitness.

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    Most of the time I’m just glad that my brain is like: ‘that person is hot’ regardless of gender and I don’t ever have to worry about how me liking another person is perceived by some weirdos

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    this is so utterly stipid. women are attracted to athletic men, why shouldn’t it be the other way round? physical fitness is a sign of health and therefore desirable

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      What are you talking bro? If woman big strong, means she not small and weak and need big strong man (me) to protect her from all dangers and get validation for my increasingly fragile sense of self worth put in place by generations of archaic social conditioning.

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    The ancient masculinity of being repulsed by your wife who toils in the fields with you, filthy, sweating, and strong.

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          They are often extremely muscular statues with god like bodies. The Romans and the Greeks themselves were believed to have painted them in all kinds of colors but along the way they came to represent whiteness as the most pure and perfect form. It’s basically the literal version of whitewashing history.

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            There’s also some worship of (an idealized form of) ancient Rome and Greece here. They see their particular theme park version as a peak example of a society unmarred by the millieu of things they consider dege[…]ate.

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      Fetishizing ancient Greece and Rome as the birthplace of Western Civilization whose ideals our immoral society’s have degraded from.

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      They think they would have been a knight or philosopher or some warrior if they went back in time. Odds are they would be a peasant being ground into the dirt by nobles and still kissing their asses. It’s because they love imagining a different reality where they wouldn’t be the wimpy ass spineless cowards they are now.