When I use peertube, I interact in limited ways. I dont like, I dont subscribe. And Im not commenting. I usually only watch. I also find it slightly inaccessible.

And that’s not because I don’t want to interact.

Rather, it is because I don’t think there are convenient and meaningful ways to do so as of now. On the one side, if you use your peertube account to interact with content from the site itself, it will work well. However content abroad is inconvenient and requires insight. For example it requires several clicks and typing in your federated account to interact with a video.

Secondly, it isn’t attractive for passerbys to create an peertube account, because the software is primarily targeted toward video creators, and not the spectators.

Thirdly, it will increase the responsibilities of admins and moderators. Not only would they have to keep track of videos following terms, but also that users are interacting well.

I believe Peertube should outsource interaction and subscription to a new federated software. Let’s call it Duckling just for the sake of making it easier to reference. Duckling is somewhat of an interaction service. Here you can subscribe to channels and instances, renamed to idols and pubs respectively, just to make it more human.

If you find a joyful instance, you can add it to your pubs. Pubs should be visited to find new idols.

One of the reason I find this idea quite interesting is because it would decompose peertube into smaller and more meaningful projects. Peertube could focus on making the best video hosting service, whereas Duckling could focus on becoming the best spectator service. For example, Duckling could experiment with how to display threads and sort comments. Or make it easier to discover relevant content.

As the development progress of such software, it could be meaningful to expand the scope of Duckling. Perhaps to make it more of a general purpose federated subscription service.

  • Jakob :lemmy:
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    52 years ago

    You can watch peertube-videos, vote them, comment them from friendica, mastodon, misskey, socialhub… it’s activitypub, it’s fediverse… you only need a peertube-account, if you want to upload videos… not for the rest of interaction…

    • liwott
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      12 years ago

      I think you don’t see it from you instance, but I had a small discussion with OP where I couldn’t understand the difference between their proposed “Duckling” and what one can currently do with Mastodon. Here’s the last message that I guess you can search on your instance for it to load the whole thread.

      • Jakob :lemmy:
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        12 years ago

        Oh this was a discussion on mastodon and lemmy… i can not find the mastodon-thread with my lemmy-instance…

        • liwott
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          22 years ago

          Yes federation between Mastodon and Lemmy still need some improvement, but at least you can read that conversation

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    42 years ago

    @libre_warrior In my case, I don’t have any Peertube account, and I usually interact (subscribe, comment) with Peertube content from Mastodon. Wouldn’t one say in this case that my Mastodon instance plays the roleof “Duckling”?

    • Vegafjord eoOP
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      Yes you could say that. With mastodon you can interact with peertube content.

      But mastodon isnt really designed for interacting with content creators/ authors/ idols.

      I guess duckling would feel more like an rss feed. And a project like this would play to that strength.

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        12 years ago

        @libre_warrior
        > But mastodon isnt really designed for interacting with […] idols.

        In which sense? Once you see the creator’s profile on Mastodon you can interact with it in exactly the same way as you would with any user, so that kind of interaction is precisely what Mastodon is designed for.

        In fact I think that Mastodon is not “Duckling” for exactly the opposite reason : it is not a nice tool for discovering new creators/channels; which I do directly from Peertube, unregistered.

        • Vegafjord eoOP
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          32 years ago

          In what sense?

          Mastodon is designed for creating small posts and interacting with peers. Duckling would be designed for tailoring content feed and interacting with that content.

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            @libre_warrior

            How different is “tayloring content feed” from editing Mastodon lists? What do you mean with “interacting with that content” if not commenting, liking, bookmarking, subscribing; all of which you can do from Mastodon? Ok there’s disliking, but I’m quite sure it is not all you meant.