• Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    45·
    9 months ago

    Fuckers are trying so damn hard to make murdering two million people in full view of the world “complex” and “nuanced” and all they’re really doing is revealing they never thought about anyone outside their immediate circle as human us-foreign-policy

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      33·
      9 months ago

      After the Gaza war started I finally understood that words like “complex” and "complexity’ are often lib thought terminating clichés. The clichés hold true even if the topic is legitimately complex like universal healthcare. All they want to do is pat people on the head and then begin their lecture on topic X as they opine you can’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good and you don’t understand how politics works and you’re being naïve and…

      • davel [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        15·
        9 months ago

        Yup. Though sometimes they do the opposite and waive away any historical context or complexity because actually it’s simple, stupid.

        Please don’t adopt their framing of this concentration camp genocide as a “war”.

        • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
          7·
          9 months ago

          I know what you mean but I’m speaking about war (the fighting) as opposed to the genocide. It would feel weird to me to use “Gaza war” at other sites and a different term here.

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          Edit

          I also use “Gaza war” in real life. I wish English had a set specialized term (acceptable for libs) for the sort of genocidal war happening in Gaza.

  • umbrellaEnglish
    19·
    9 months ago

    some libs were very pissed when i compared the genociding of gazans and imprisonment of mexicans with nazis recently.

    i wish they were that offended by the actual genocide, the more i talk to them, the more that MLK quote rings true. they dont give a fuck as long as they can tell themselves they are good people.

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      9·
      9 months ago

      They can tell themselves they are good people.

      I try to remember that I’m flawed. As dumb and new age-y ridiculous as that might sound - it’s useful for me. I got into an argument the other day with a Jewish lib who knew I was Jewish too so he called me a kapo, told me to fuck myself, and he wanted me to fall into a silly trap. He wanted me to answer a dumb question about Zionism so he could he could say “I knew it! You’re an anti-Semite!” I didn’t swear back or block him or fall into this stupid trap. He must have been very disappointed.

      I had zero empathy for him - but I had a very tiny bit of sympathy. He didn’t seem like the typical name calling idiot-fool. I think (or I’d like to think) it’s possible that he has some level of cognitive dissounce about the genocide in Gaza. If I’m right - he knows what’s happening is wrong. So instead of arguing to make a point of any kind - he’s just rude and he’s chomping at the bit to say “I knew it! You’re an anti-Semite!” to everybody he disagrees with.

      Covid showed me that a huge number of Americans working a truly bipartisan manner are awful about simple, basic measures about public health. How hard is it to be at least minimally thoughtful about public health during a goddamned pandemic? And about Gaza - I assume that guy thinks of himself as a good person like so many libs do. How hard is it to be anti-genocide? That’s a level of awfulness I didn’t think libs would get to.

      My negativity level seems very broken. It’s always set far too low. Every time. I need to Spinal Tap it up to 11. The past few years have been sad and depressing.

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      This comment was far more of a downer than I expected to write. If I go grocery shopping today I’ll pay the insane price for a pint of some chocolate flavor of Ben & Jerry’s. That always cheers me up. LIfe. Haha.