• Ulu-Mulu-no-die@lemmy.world
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    Will they ever stop creating new services only to shut them down a few years later?

    No wonder people don’t trust them anymore.

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      There are zero reasons to trust Google at all, so… I don’t know the “anymore” part…

      Not because they shut down services but because they are Google. Part of the five eyes surveillance network, buddies with nsa and all those guys. Also will sell your private data to get rich, that’s their entire business idea.

      I’ve always found it hilarious that they give people a web page to put their private searches in, and they do it!

      I don’t like Zuckerberg but his opinion about people just randomly uploading anything personal to Facebook and trusting him (he called those people dumb fucks when he was younger)… It is kind of true.

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        Also will sell your private data to get rich

        Every private company does that, it’s not that if you avoid Google you’re free of it.

        Unfortunately not everyone care that much about privacy but definitely everyone cares about having a service that’s reliable in the long run, hence the “not anymore”.

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        Well they give people a web page to put their private searches in and then they perform a search and amongst peers, Google has historically done it the best. That’s not a minor detail, it’s not particularly realistic to use the modern web without a search engine and they’re not secretive about the business model. That doesn’t make it particularly great, especially for privacy, but people are unlikely to pay for web searching.

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          Thats what frustrates me so much. People pay for their morning coffee, their ride to work, streaming TV subscriptions, Spotify and so on… but when it comes to searching the web, it should just be provided as a free service?

          I know traditionally it was, but now we have no privacy and ads everywhere. Somehow people are OK with that I guess. But im really not…

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      Even though Apple is a trash company as well, they have one thing going for them, which is if they do something today, I am fairly confident it will be around going into the future, no matter what

    • Doesn’t Microsoft do the same (i.e. killing the Windows phones)? It really kills any incentive for me to buy their products. I feel safer actively avoiding them. It used to be you felt safer buying from big names because they were here to stay. Surely enough, companies are but the products aren’t and customers turn into victims.

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        Yeah MS did kill their phones but that’s nothing like Google launching dozens of new services then killing them after a few years, Google has unfortunately been doing that for quite a long time.

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    As a Google Domains customer, it would have been nice to learn about this from Google…

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    Ugh, that’s so annoying. What’s the point of making great products if you’re eventually just going to shut them down?

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      Maybe it’s easier for them to sell it instead of maintaining them?

      Google has their hands in too many industries

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        I would imagine it also due to a flaw in how Google works. From my understanding, Google incentivizes adding new features, not supporting things. So, unless you’re on a team that is working on a core product, you won’t get far just maintaining and fixing bugs in a product that is “feature complete”.

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    Fuck. I have a domain and workspace account associated with that domain through Google.

    Goddammit.

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    Dang!

    I have a bunch of domains on Google domains.

    Anyone have some good recommendations of places to transfer them?

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      I moved to cloudflare. Not sure if you’re looking for anything specific, but they’re fairly popular amongst self hosted crowds.

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      I have been using namecheap for years.

      Only thing that was a little annoying is i couldn’t turn on API access without adding (i think) $50 credit to my account.

      Also the API access locked down to a list of whitelist IP address. So i need manually add in the authorized IP address. Very annoying if your on a dynamic IP address. Every three months i need to manually go in and update it so my certificates can get renewed.

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      A good thing about Google Domains is that they support SRS for email forwarding, it’s a pain to find providers that do this correctly…

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    “Once regulatory approvals are obtained and the transaction closes, you will become a customer of Squarespace, and your** domain will be owned** and, after a transition period, managed by Squarespace.”

    Squarespace will own the domains?

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      No. All domain registrars are bound by ICANN, which has very strict rules about allowing users to transfer their domains elsewhere. It’s like how phone companies (at least in NA) have to let you transfer your phone number to a different provider.

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    I was going to opine about how “this is the problem with centralized cloud-based providers, at the drop of a hat they can be acquired and suddenly your content is owned by a company you wanted nothing to do with,” but then again, you chose Google as your domain provider. I think that’s your fault.

    I’d usually say the solution is to self host whenever a cloud provider has a shitshow like this, but in this case that’s not viable unless you want to go all the way up to becoming your own domain registrar or making your own top-level domain. Symptom that maybe the domain name system is broken, maybe we should campaign for it to be opened up for anyone to register their own domain, or least have a reputable co-op or community-owned domain registrar (maybe the open source/fediverse community can pool our funds to set up a nonprofit publicly owned registrar).

    Remember that the fediverse entirely runs on the domain name system as the domain of the instance is used to identify it, and all the security measures relating to inter-instance data sharing is relying on the security of the domains.

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      You’re not wrong. lemmy.ml only points to one machine at one IP address.

      Granted, the fediverse means that posts here are copied elsewhere, but it’s only the initial posts, not the user accounts or edits.

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    Google has become the “Popeyes Cheddar Biscuit Butterfly Shrimp” of the internet.

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    Crap. Their API for dynamic dns was nice.

    Any suggestions for registrars which allow Dynamic DNS via an API?

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        Does Namecheap still charge for WHOIS Guard and DNSSEC? That was one of the things I liked about Google Domains, they were free.

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      Cloudflare has everything you could need to simplify dynamic DNS. The free plans actually cover most of my personal usage and of course paid version for anything else.

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        The selection of TLDs Cloudflare supports is weird. I checked them out earlier, and they list .dev as “coming soon” even though it was made publicly available in 2019. This makes Cloudflare a non-option for me as I have a handful of .dev domains I would need to transfer somewhere.

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          Oh. That sucks. I had a few non supported TLDs a few years ago and was happy to find them supported recently. I moved everything from Google to cloudflare last year. Maybe you can ping them @cloudflare@cloudflare.social on lemmy to check if they have an ETA for .dev. I just asked them that same question so will update you if they answer.

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      Namecheap is pretty good for that. They also have ANAME support. They’re one of the more expensive registrars, but good to use for 1 domain with all of your dynamic stuff.

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    So frustrated with Google. I moved all my stuff from Namecheap to Google as the interface was nice and I could share the access to the accounts with spouse and oldest kid.

    Now I have to look around again and/or just go back to Namecheap.

    Most registrars have a free forwarding option for a domain’s email (up to 100, e.g., email addresses). Are there any that allow forwarding of a registered domain email account to multiple other accounts (as opposed to just one)?

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      I can vouch for NameSilo. I know they offer free email forwarding, but I can’t remember if it’s for multiple accounts. Their interface is pretty barebones and dated, but they’re one of the cheapest registrars. Just keep in mind that their DNS updates slowly (15+ minutes) and all records have a minimum TTL of 1 hour. And they default to a TTL of 1 week (I think).

      I’d recommend using Namecheap for 1 domain, and then CNAME (or MX, etc) particularly active subdomains on NameSilo to it.

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    and just like that, I moved a dozen domains and email (forwarding) to Cloudflare.