Wonderful news. It was honestly time for us to start moving away from Reddit anyway. This just gives us an excuse.
Agreed, the increased ads, detriment to user experience and general toxicity was becoming unbearable. I am very thankful to have found a new home.
Thing that was the most upsetting was the absolute refusal to accept any bit of responsibility or admit what they were doing. I think we can all appreciate the cost of running a huge service like Reddit, but in no way does that require them to do what they did.
If anything, I am shocked they didn’t attempt to do something like require users who use third party apps to be paying for Reddit Premium or whatever it’s called. AFAIK there are no ads displayed if you’re a subscriber? So there wouldn’t have been a big difference in revenue there.
Agreed. Offsetting the cost of the service, including supporting moderators, was necessary. Trying to launch IPO and exploiting user content and moderators to turn a profit, not necessary.
Honestly I hope it remains small enough to not attract influencers and low grade content, but also large enough to become a significant source of useful searchable info. It’s a pipe dream but hey
One can hope.
Right now, I love the size and the community feel. It’s as if we are all trying to make this place our home, so we are all figuring it out together, posting often and engaging. I know it won’t last forever, but I’m enjoying it while it is lasting.
Right? The quality of the comments on everything here seems so much better than Reddit. i think it really shows how much the bots had taken over Reddit
That’s supposed to be the idea behind instances: that you can make your community as big or as small as you want. I think it’ll work
For me it was the obvious bots and repost karma farming. It was all starting to feel stale except for some of the more niche subreddits I was on.
Holy crap, yeah. The amount of repost bots I’ve been seeing lately has been insane. Also noticed a massive increase in porn bots in the comments, almost all exactly the same kind of thing
“Hey baby check me out https://linktr.ee/obviouspornscam”
Yep, great motivator for moving to Lemmy.
It taught me one thing. Nobody uses the friends list or follow feature, aside from spammers.
Reddit and Lemmy are topic-oriented systems: most users find things to read by looking for topics they’re interested in. Despite the name “communities”, these are basically topic categories.
Facebook and Twitter are people-oriented systems: most users find things to read by telling the site who their friends are (or which celebrities they want to get parasocial with), and looking at things from their friends or recommended based on friend connections.
On a site with topic-oriented standards, it’s often kinda creepy to follow people from one topic to another.
On a site with people-oriented standards, it’s often kinda rude to show up in distant friends-of-friends-of-friends’ mentions to tell them your enthusiastically held opinions on the topic they happen to be discussing.
Jumping ship is the easy part. Now we have to keep this up. Let’s make sure this isn’t just something that’ll disappear in a month or two. Make Fediverse more active than before permanently.
I’m more of a lurker myself but that was due to Redditor’s attitude towards me aha. I would say my opinion and I would get downvoted to oblivion as well as a bunch of mean replies. And DMs I have never checked lmao. Over here though, it looks a fucklot more friendly and that makes me want to engage more!
It’s certainly more about discussion here. I’ve made mistakes already and no one has criticized me (yet). Just someone responding about why my opinion/statement was wrong in their opinion.
If I did that on reddit I’d probably never check my inbox again lmao. Not saying all reddit subs are like that, but a lot are.
I am biased (of course), but you are experiencing the best of the best - the core of what made reddit good. people who take that leap of faith and break free from the reddit shackles (like you) are just plain built different and I am glad you are here.
I have to agree about many users from a certain group/type of people affected enough by the reddit fiasco are those that are here rn. I’m biased as well, but I appreciate the compliment. Tbh, I’m just going with the flow. I saw a recommendation from reddit and was curious enough to check lemmy out.
But many of the users here (most probably you included) are here because they actually give a crap. Some are pretty active. Some are already starting communities and posting. I’d love to see the fediverse grow but I’m afraid it’ll end up like reddit.
I’d love to see the fediverse grow but I’m afraid it’ll end up like reddit.
federation will go a long way to keep things in check. current server not your cup of tea (rules, content, etc)? then switch to another or run your own. create your own exactly named and curated community on a different server and federation propogates or prunes it across the network.
we are in brand new social teritory here and I am thrilled.
I’m so interested in how it works out as well
I’m lurking and exploring the fediverse now, and I must say, federation does pull me back to the Internet Age of Forums. And it’s nice. Decentralization of the internet is the only way to preserve the Internet. I don’t want Reddit to be yet another Facebook, or Twitter, but here they are. And I can say for certain that centralized social media is one of the reasons. There was once a time when different hobbies has different forums, and we just follow whatever we like on the Internet.
Federation is the old forum-based internet packaged in a new package for me, and I’m not even mad at it.
Yeah reminds me of Usenet. Whatever happened to Usenet?
Reddit and Twitter are incredibly hostile places.
I have a friend who privated her Twitter account a few years back. She made the mistake of replying to a tweet to state that non-white people can be racist too, and ended up getting doxxed and harassed.
Also, I remember the time when I kept getting DMs on my Reddit account stating things like “just reminding you that you’re a c***”
I’ve not been in a situation this bad before but sometimes I do find it funny to get a random DM without any context say “You’re a cunt”. I would just rofl and go on with life😂 Like what does one achieve woth saying something that doesn’t even land in my brain lmao
Crazy, that should be an uncontroversial statement. It’s sad that people on the left have radicalized too and are sometimes going too far, giving the right a larger attack surface. Of course regular algorithm driven social media stimulate radicalization because rage drives up engagement.
Well, when the Twitter exodus happened, I too feared that the (4-5x!) increase in traffic would quickly come down. It’s been several months and Mastodon is still just as strong!
I don’t use Mastodon/Twitter so I had no idea. That’s definitely reassuring. Thanks!
This is my first time stepping into the fediverse, actually. Time will tell, I am cautiously optimistic. May try Matrix at some point too, don’t know quite yet.
Matrix, especially Element is really nice to use. I’ve now been a matrix user for 3 years but only joined lemmy today 😃
But are we profitable?
No. But we are great.
Neither is Reddit
hopefully this marks the end of overinflated valuations for companies that own websites with a lot of users.
We have a couple more to go I guess. However any “disturbance” like that brings more people to the fediverse. And the stronger we get the better. The rest can stay on Twitter and Reddit. We need critical mass of good active users and we are set. I think Mastodon has done that. It feels like a nice large community. Lots of chatter and people are still steadily coming over. We don’t need to add more people to make it great. I think we have reached level of great that just attracts people now.
Haha, lol!
I nuked my twelve year old account yesterday and I’m literally not even sad. That joke of an AMA sealed the deal for me.
The best part for me personally is, I got an excuse to finally migrate to fediverse. I’m joining a discussion on lemmy from kbin while following stuff from mastodon and beehaw.It’s nerdy and fun. Also, interestingly, feels more reliable. You don’t like the people running one service, did the owner turn out to be an utter sociopath? Go, make an account on somewhere better suited to your style and keep engaging with the same communities, maybe at the cost of a different UI experience. It’s much preferable to losing an entire platform to the whims of a few at the top.
But if you move to another server, do you loos all your subscriptions, messages, stats or can you migrate your Profile?
Afaik you can’t migrate yet. It has been raised, though, but idk more than that. I support migration, tbh.
Thanks for the clarification. Hope the devs will implement this feature.
Well that took all of 5 minutes to figure out how this federated stuff works. Thanks spez, cya later reddit.
Yup, I put it off for years (? has it been that long) and finally decided to try it just ahead of subreddits going dark. The only reason I’ll go back is to delete my account at this point.
It took you just 5 minutes? I’m 20 minutes in and still a bit confused
Took me around 4 hours to click lol
Thanks spez!
– The Mlem Team
I have been wanting to switch to Lemmy for a long time, it is my last non-FOSS social media. But I never imagined Lemmy will be popular because reddit is thriving, and I cannot see reason for people to leave.
So, from the bottom of my heart, thank you spez form the bottom of my heart. And I hope you keep down the path you are on and turn reddit into a Twitter dumpster fire.
FOR THE FEDIVERSE!
Uh… that is starting to look exponential…
Quick, we need to get the /r/wallstreetbets folks in here to tell us how not to read it!
Did anyone create the !wallstreetbets community here yet?
Looks like somebody has, but no posts for 2 years lol
There was a picture of one instance’s user count that was mostly a flat line until recently, now it looks like a right angle 😂. Can’t remember if it was Beehaw or a different one though
Probably beehaw or lemmy.world, although a lot of instances are getting new users.
it’ll probably plateau; saw similar during Twitter/Mastodon migration waves
Which is a shame. I hope more people see a reason to leave reddit.
Most people are apathetic to this sort of thing; they just want whatever content they are already getting. They’ll use the official app or the web app as long as possible. Onboarding onto federated alternatives is also complicated for normies.
Doesn’t change my own reasons for leaving though 🤷♀️
I vote we all adopt “Don’t be a Spez” as phrase of saying “Don’t fuck a good thing up for your own greed” to somebody.
But yeah, thanks Spez! I had wanted to leave Reddit for a while now as spam started overflowing subs, and spam bot accounts just kept going with reddit doing nothing to stop them. I still stayed out of laziness, I suppose, but this last drop made the bucket overflow. Thanks Spez!
“Don’t be a Spez” I feel like Elon already owns that phrase.
Nah, Elon is in his own class. He would have “Don’t be an Elon” which is what you say to people when they are a really dumb scammer who just got super lucky and whose every decision is mindnumbingly stupid like paying twice the value for an enormous company and then in mere months devaluating it to 30% of its original value.
That would justify “Don’t be an Elon”
Don’t be Spez, have a Pez.
Three cheers for spez! 😂
See? Spez isn’t all bad. His charisma-less incompetence is good for something!
I heard through the grapevine [and have no idea how valid it is] that he used to be a moderator on r/jailbait. I don’t know how true that is, but if it is I think he looks the part lol
I was part of the Digg exodus. I’m now a r/efugee but glad to be here. I like how decentralized everything is.
june 30 is going to be the big tsunami that overwhelms us all
Looking forward to the next iteration of Reddit. This reminds me of when I first joined during the Digg exodus
What caused the Digg exodus?
Digg made changes to their site that pissed off a lot of users, so they went to Reddit. And then Reddit did the same, so now here we all are on Lemmy.
- https://www.huffpost.com/entry/reddit-digg-rivalry-heats_n_699225
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digg#Digg_v4
- https://web.archive.org/web/20100831122556/http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/digg_user_rebellion_reddit_on_front_page.php
- http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/08/30/digg-users-lash-out-at-new-format-join-forces-with-reddit/
Thanks
I like GitHub stats for jerboa and lemmy-ui.
Currently using Jeroba. Nicer experience overall than using lemmy in a mobile web browser, but still a bit rough around the edges, and I hope they fix the leggy scrolling.
That’s an Android-only client though right? Nothing for iOS so far?
It’s Android, yes. I think there’s an iOS one called Mlem.
Wow. The number of servers… cool.
It’s great, but can always be better.
