• @ramberry
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    • JustEnoughDucks
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      I would like to point out that many, many linux versions of games have either major bugs or are almost unplayable while on proton they work fine: Borderlands 2, Ark, Aragami, and Planetary Annihilation are just a few off the top of my head. All but aragami are either barely playable or unplayable natively. Not to mention how rocket league updates were sometimes delayed for days for the linux version, which also isn’t ideal in a competitive game.

      Just because a company makes a native port, doesn’t mean they will put even the minimal effort in to support it, which ends up causing more problems than playing through proton. Difficult situation.

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          It is not a mistake. I said “many don’t work well”, you say “many work fine.” Those two things are not mutually exclusive. Many can work fine, many can work badly, and many can work fine with minor issues.

          Valve games all work fine (besides modding, sometimes you can run into path issues or similar), but for the other games, I, personally, have had almost as many issues with “native” games as with proton games. With proton games, the fix is often tweaks, command line parameters, etc… that can be done with proper knowledge, debugging. On the other hand, native problems (as I have experienced them) aren’t a problem with translation as there is no translation, so they rely on often-apathetic developers to release a fix. For games like Borderlands 2, Planetary annihilation, Rocket league, Rust, etc… those fixes never came and in 2 of those cases, linux support was just removed instead.

          I agree that we should support linux developers, but I think it is a difference in philosophy on whether people should exclusively support linux devs, especially when their support of linux may be fleeting.

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              Ah, I think I misunderstood your intention. I took your other statement to mean: The 50 games I played were mostly fine, so here is a criticism of wine/proton gamers.

              i guess we shouldn’t look down on WINE gamers because often even devs who “support linux” don’t really support linux, so it’s only as good as supporting a game that only works over proton.