• Grayox
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    That’s the biggest problem with a social democracy, it just takes one bad faith actor supported by Capital owners to completely derail the system of social safety nets that were built with good faith over almost 200 years…

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      8 months ago

      Good faith is a bit of a weird way to say exploitation, slavery, genocide and war in the global south

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        I was more referring to good faith governance (govermeny working for its citizens best interests and not corporations), not saying that social democracy aren’t fueled by those sources. But fuxk me for not writing an essay decrying every crime of social democracy’s lmao my bad.

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          Np you’ll get it right next time

          That being said, it wasn’t good faith that gave us those safety nets, it was the working class picking up arms and demanding it.

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                Class conciousness and working class Solidarity is built by poking lots of holes in the arguments of Capitalist Simps and libs by pointing out hypocrisies in the systems they support, and how every progress a social democracy has clawed for hundreds of years to get can be undone and if not undone undermined by the ruling class using their vast wealth to influence elections. Lecturing them on literally every crime of Capitalism that they have been indoctrinated in since birth is going to do nothing, but make them ignore you. Make a meme and share it if you want to address those issues you have with social democracies, just be normal and stop trying to undermine other leftists trying to spread class conciousness. You came in condescending, implying me saying the term ‘Good Faith’ was endorsing the exploitation of impoverished nations for the Imperial cores benefit. While I was trying to point out to the Imperial core how insignificant they are to the corporate overlords and the ruling class. Its a spectrum, and getting folks to recognize the Burgouis Prolitariat class divide is the first step, which is what I am trying to accomplish. I shouldnt be required to write a damn essay about every sin of social democracies every fucking time to avoid leftist like you coming in and being condescending pricks…

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                  Gonna be real with you, I didn’t think you were making the point you were making in the first comment, that’s on me. I mistook you for a lib that is aware of the inherent injustices of the system but thinks they’re caused by bad actors in an otherwise valid system that strives for the betterment of everyone (“it’s just crony capitalism that’s bad”), while ignoring the actual harm the supposed good faith progress caused to the rest of the world and the exploited classes.

                  We’re on the same page, I think.

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      It seems that what you mean is social democracy broadly fails to meet the needs of the working class because it binds our fate to the exercise of ruling power.

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        In which way? Downvoters don’t see your point.