• renor
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    5 years ago

    People really have to learn to differenciate between PRIVACY and ANONIMITY. Two different concepts.

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      5 years ago

      Anonymity IS privacy. Specifically, anonymity is privacy of identity. So no, it’s not two different concepts. It’s a subset/superset relationship of the same thing.

      Calling “privacy” and “anonymity” two different concepts is an attempt to downplay the importance of anonymity. The problem is that you never have absolute privacy, and when privacy is attacked or lost for one reason or another you better have anonymity. You should think of anonymity as a 2nd layer of protection from disclosure.

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        5 years ago

        That’s a good point. Thanks for sharing this view

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        5 years ago

        You cannot use Signal without a mobile phone subscription. All mobile phone connections (CDMA or GSM alike) inherently impose tracking. Additionally, most of Europe imposes GSM registration which is linked to national ID. So the mere precondition to establish such service is in itself privacy abuse – and that’s before we even talk about forced disclosure of the phone number to OWS.

          • tanuki
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            5 years ago

            As have I, although using a Google Voice number, so avoiding one devil for a different one.