• @vitaminka
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    61 year ago

    Nice to see he’s now an unquestionable authority for you. If that was sole reason they would attack in 2014.

    authority is not relevant here, you don’t have to trust or distrust the person giving them, you just have to listen to what they say to learn the reasons, because they’re literally just saying them, legitimacy and subtext of those reasons is a separate issue

    is that the nazism is to be smashed as soon as possible

    i agree, but has that worked out well so far with this war? if anything, all western countries now sympathize with ukraine, providing them with weapons and all that, and pointing out issues with ukraine is now equated to wanting all ukranians dead or something like that

    Huge edits happening in your post as i write this.

    yeah, sorry, i was trying to rephrase to make my argument more concise

    • @PolandIsAStateOfMind
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      1 year ago

      authority is not relevant here, you don’t have to trust or distrust the person giving them, you just have to listen to what they say to learn the reasons, because they’re literally just saying them, legitimacy and subtext of those reasons is a separate issue

      We shall know them by their fruits, to loosely quote certain popular book, as of now that fruit is very uncertainly ripen or not. And i did not said it wasn’t motive at all, just it was not the prime motive, it just piled up since there are many of them.

      but has that worked out well so far with this war?

      Pretty much yes, wherever Russia have military presence.

      if anything, all western countries now sympathize with ukraine, providing them with weapons and all that, and pointing out issues with ukraine is now equated to wanting all ukranians dead or something like that

      That would happen no matter what. Western media openly whitewashing nazism is pretty clear pointer on what do they really stand for. Note: they aren’t sypathetic to Ukraine, they are antirussian which is very much different things, as you could see from their articles from before the war. Also all the western fash did a 180 from “slavic mongolic subhumans” to which cathegory they did counted Ukrainians before too. Again it all makes clear what is the real core point here - USA hegemony and Russia opposing it.

      yeah, sorry, i was trying to rephrase to make my argument more concise

      No problem, i did quoted what was up at the moment.