I agree. I think it could encourage people to comment when they disagree with something rather than just downvoting. IIRC they removed it on Hexbear, too
I’m of two minds. On one hand, it can encourage people to try to “score votes” rather than engage in the conversation in good faith. On the other hand, they serve very well to help reduce the amount of “this” or “I agree” comments that don’t add much of anything at all.
Thank you for this information! I wish it hid comment scores as well though, I don’t think I’ve ever even noticed a post score, I only ever see comment scores
Edit: nevermind, it does hide comment scores apparently, they were just still showing for me for a few minutes there
That’s cool as hell actually, I’ll probably do that. I hate trying to decipher why someone else got downvoted and would rather let their words stand on their own instead of being influenced by it.
On hexbear people rarely offer substantive rebuttals to bad points. They use inline image memes/gifs and move on. Which doesn’t actually debunk the point and might leave some lurker thinking “huh they have a good point, people don’t like it but they won’t say why so they must have no rebuttals”. And that doesn’t create a good culture. That’s a discord culture of memeing and that becomes expected. It doesn’t show dissent, it distorts views. Because you have like 8 reactionaries, liberals, ultras, or whatever upvoting their point, then a bunch of people, maybe 6 posting reaction memes in the comments that disagree but that 8 number next to it looks a lot more approving and impactful than those reaction comments downthread.
Really bad illustration for your point but an excellent one for mine which is while people claim and hope this will happen. Guess what? The people who have the knowledge and time to do replies get burned out. There are more bad faith people out there with money, time, etc than there are communists who have the time to bat down every single new reincarnation of propaganda, a lie, ultra behavior, etc.
This is why a lot of new learner spaces are heavily moderated. Because bad faith actors come in, use certain tactics and aim to burden, overwhelm, and burn out the regular users so they don’t have a chance to interact with genuine good faith new learners.
I agree. I think it could encourage people to comment when they disagree with something rather than just downvoting. IIRC they removed it on Hexbear, too
Yeah, I gotta say, voting culture online is really not my jam. I want to discuss, not consume, and I think votes encourage more of the latter
I do like upvotes, though
It’s also satisfying to see some bs post downvoted for hell.
it do be nice
I’m of two minds. On one hand, it can encourage people to try to “score votes” rather than engage in the conversation in good faith. On the other hand, they serve very well to help reduce the amount of “this” or “I agree” comments that don’t add much of anything at all.
The vote scoring bugs me. I genuinely do not care for the opinions of every bystander on a discussion if they’re not willing to voice them.
Just in case you didn’t know, you can hide the scores in your account settings. (I feel weird hiding them, but you might have a stronger mind than I)
Thank you for this information! I wish it hid comment scores as well though, I don’t think I’ve ever even noticed a post score, I only ever see comment scores
Edit: nevermind, it does hide comment scores apparently, they were just still showing for me for a few minutes there
That’s cool as hell actually, I’ll probably do that. I hate trying to decipher why someone else got downvoted and would rather let their words stand on their own instead of being influenced by it.
On hexbear people rarely offer substantive rebuttals to bad points. They use inline image memes/gifs and move on. Which doesn’t actually debunk the point and might leave some lurker thinking “huh they have a good point, people don’t like it but they won’t say why so they must have no rebuttals”. And that doesn’t create a good culture. That’s a discord culture of memeing and that becomes expected. It doesn’t show dissent, it distorts views. Because you have like 8 reactionaries, liberals, ultras, or whatever upvoting their point, then a bunch of people, maybe 6 posting reaction memes in the comments that disagree but that 8 number next to it looks a lot more approving and impactful than those reaction comments downthread.
Really bad illustration for your point but an excellent one for mine which is while people claim and hope this will happen. Guess what? The people who have the knowledge and time to do replies get burned out. There are more bad faith people out there with money, time, etc than there are communists who have the time to bat down every single new reincarnation of propaganda, a lie, ultra behavior, etc.
This is why a lot of new learner spaces are heavily moderated. Because bad faith actors come in, use certain tactics and aim to burden, overwhelm, and burn out the regular users so they don’t have a chance to interact with genuine good faith new learners.