Unfortunately, their moderation tends to go liberal with “be respectful” enforced way over “be based” and “don’t be nazi apologist” - this is one of the chief liberal methods of shutting up people as you can obviously see from the lib crowd there abandoning even the poor semblance of argument they were trying to make and focusing on this, especially on dogpiling @Catradora_Stalinism@lemmy.ml
Being respectful with those people, often is resulting with lowering the level of discussion instead of enhancing it. Bootlickers and nazis need to be told exactly what they are instead of enabling them through liberal “civility”.
This “we must be as uncivil and annoying as possible” is completely antithetical to spreading communism. You almost always hear this line from the self-described dirtbag left and chapos, and never from actual communists earnestly and patiently trying to win people over to communism.
You are incredibly overinterpreting my words, there is huge difference between "we must be as uncivil and annoying as possible” and not adhering to liberal “civility at all costs” rhetorical tool, especially when you know they aren’t possible baby leftists but a trolls coming out with bad faith.
If there would be any doubt about them, you would be right. but those guys on lemmy in linked threads are obvious trolls.
I agree some of them are obvious trolls, but being respectful isn’t only to benefit the two parties, but also everyone else who is watching the interaction. Third parties will be much easier swayed to communism when they realize its defenders are respectful, level-headed, disciplined, and people they wouldn’t mind meeting in-person.
A simple way to put it, is we need to be more like fidel or huey or uncle ho, and less like angry youtube manchildren or brooklyn podcasters.
Unfortunately, their moderation tends to go liberal with “be respectful” enforced way over “be based” and “don’t be nazi apologist” - this is one of the chief liberal methods of shutting up people as you can obviously see from the lib crowd there abandoning even the poor semblance of argument they were trying to make and focusing on this, especially on dogpiling @Catradora_Stalinism@lemmy.ml
Being respectful with those people, often is resulting with lowering the level of discussion instead of enhancing it. Bootlickers and nazis need to be told exactly what they are instead of enabling them through liberal “civility”.
EDIT: Wew, Lemmy, just wew.
This “we must be as uncivil and annoying as possible” is completely antithetical to spreading communism. You almost always hear this line from the self-described dirtbag left and chapos, and never from actual communists earnestly and patiently trying to win people over to communism.
Listen to Comrade Huey:
You are incredibly overinterpreting my words, there is huge difference between "we must be as uncivil and annoying as possible” and not adhering to liberal “civility at all costs” rhetorical tool, especially when you know they aren’t possible baby leftists but a trolls coming out with bad faith.
If there would be any doubt about them, you would be right. but those guys on lemmy in linked threads are obvious trolls.
I agree some of them are obvious trolls, but being respectful isn’t only to benefit the two parties, but also everyone else who is watching the interaction. Third parties will be much easier swayed to communism when they realize its defenders are respectful, level-headed, disciplined, and people they wouldn’t mind meeting in-person.
A simple way to put it, is we need to be more like fidel or huey or uncle ho, and less like angry youtube manchildren or brooklyn podcasters.