Yippee, an argument from semantics. English speakers commonly use “gulag” to refer to the network of forced labor prison camps. You know that, I know that, and we’re writing English not Russian.
The difference is that Soviet Union actually abolished gulags, meanwhile US still has its slavery based penal system today. US also holds more people in these prison labor camps than USSR ever had in gulags.
So you’re in favor of putting political opponents in prisons that killed over a million people? Come on, even the Soviet Union realized that shit was messed up and abolished it post-Stalin.
I don’t knew what to tell you if you’re going to stick your head in the sand over the mass murder that Stalin especially committed towards his own people. The US can take plenty of dissent among its citizens. Stalin instead slaughtered his political enemies, real or imagined.
I highly recommend reading chapter 10 in Democracy for the Few to see the amount of political repression that actually happens in US. Especially against the people who are deemed to be an actual threat to the system. US regime slaughtered many political opponents over the years, MLK and Fred Hampton being two prominent ones. It’s also worth reading up on McCarthyism and all the purges that happened then. I find that once you really start looking at how US regime operates it becomes clear that the freedoms are paper thin in practice.
I do indeed know about McCarthyism. I believe my high school US history class covered it briefly, then my English class covered it more in depth when covering The Crucible. In the US, many of the worst excesses of the FBI can be traced to J Edgar Hoover. That includes his harassment of King and murder of Hampton, but not the murder of King. My understanding is that Hoover’s reign is such a dark spot because he had dirt on a lot of Congress. Once he was gone, the FBI got reigned in a lot. We know of programs like COINTELPRO because of the US Senate’s Church Committee report. I’m skeptical that a thin-skinned authoritarian regime would do that sort of investigation.
All that said, there are still way more freedoms to speak your mind. I can go protest a government decision in the streets and generally things stay pretty calm. Even protests that go sour don’t usually go that sour in the modern day. And there are lots of ways to influence local decisions that the left especially underestimates.
Gulags
So regular prisons then? Also FYI GULag means “main camp administration”, and not the camp itself
Yippee, an argument from semantics. English speakers commonly use “gulag” to refer to the network of forced labor prison camps. You know that, I know that, and we’re writing English not Russian.
The difference is that Soviet Union actually abolished gulags, meanwhile US still has its slavery based penal system today. US also holds more people in these prison labor camps than USSR ever had in gulags.
Bruh why would I hate the Gulag?
So you’re in favor of putting political opponents in prisons that killed over a million people? Come on, even the Soviet Union realized that shit was messed up and abolished it post-Stalin.
You mean Krushchev revisionism? And 1 million people? lmao.
I don’t knew what to tell you if you’re going to stick your head in the sand over the mass murder that Stalin especially committed towards his own people. The US can take plenty of dissent among its citizens. Stalin instead slaughtered his political enemies, real or imagined.
I highly recommend reading chapter 10 in Democracy for the Few to see the amount of political repression that actually happens in US. Especially against the people who are deemed to be an actual threat to the system. US regime slaughtered many political opponents over the years, MLK and Fred Hampton being two prominent ones. It’s also worth reading up on McCarthyism and all the purges that happened then. I find that once you really start looking at how US regime operates it becomes clear that the freedoms are paper thin in practice.
I do indeed know about McCarthyism. I believe my high school US history class covered it briefly, then my English class covered it more in depth when covering The Crucible. In the US, many of the worst excesses of the FBI can be traced to J Edgar Hoover. That includes his harassment of King and murder of Hampton, but not the murder of King. My understanding is that Hoover’s reign is such a dark spot because he had dirt on a lot of Congress. Once he was gone, the FBI got reigned in a lot. We know of programs like COINTELPRO because of the US Senate’s Church Committee report. I’m skeptical that a thin-skinned authoritarian regime would do that sort of investigation.
All that said, there are still way more freedoms to speak your mind. I can go protest a government decision in the streets and generally things stay pretty calm. Even protests that go sour don’t usually go that sour in the modern day. And there are lots of ways to influence local decisions that the left especially underestimates.