I preffer eu4 tbh, and if you are an steam user, dont buy dlcs, just pirate them. About hoi4, it is the simplest history strategy game of paradox, the runs are a lot shorter, there is no economy stuff, no money, and the games are aways based around the ww2, with is not bad, but it is a lot less diverse then other paradox games. The combat is the most fleshed out part of the game, but it is not that hard to understand after you learn about the op templates and how to encircle troops. The alt history is most frequent on dlc countries, and it depends mostly on how good or bad the focus trees are (some countries are better with the original generic tree then their dlc ones). About politics, it is more boring then bad really; blue are the “democratics” countries, browns is the "fascist countries, red is the “communists” countries, and grey are the “neutral” countries, the first three are self explanatory, but the neutral ones sucks because of how bland it is, neutral can go from the KMT, to monarchys, to anarchism, to dictatorships, to chinese cliques, and its so annoying how little thought its but into it. Even the three actual ideologies are bland, democratic countries sucks ass, fascists are the ones you play when you want to win fast, and communists are for when you want to be based. The mods makes politics a lot better because there is actual nuance, even if its from an liberal mind, instead of the blandness of the vanilla game.
Literally just go to rutracker or cs.rin.ru and use a site translator browser addon, the only pirate forums that’s not a den of malware and aids are all russian sites.
Most mechanics they took out were outright trash. Mostly because they were cash grabs disconnected from one another in an quick $ effort and then abandoned to flaunt on the wind, but still. CK3 seems to integrate mechanics way better, but it will still be 10 years since their pace of development is significantly slower than any previous PDX game.
Its an more older and bigger paradox game focused on the time between the renaissence till the napoleonic era. Its an more complicated, longer, dlc dependent, diverse and detailed game then HOI4 (if you have the dlcs, it sucks ass without them, but its very good with them, so pirate life for the win) but its a lot less casual then hoi4, while HOI4 have an very basic time of an medium of 7 to 9 years for run, EU4 can go to the 200/300.
I preffer eu4 tbh, and if you are an steam user, dont buy dlcs, just pirate them. About hoi4, it is the simplest history strategy game of paradox, the runs are a lot shorter, there is no economy stuff, no money, and the games are aways based around the ww2, with is not bad, but it is a lot less diverse then other paradox games. The combat is the most fleshed out part of the game, but it is not that hard to understand after you learn about the op templates and how to encircle troops. The alt history is most frequent on dlc countries, and it depends mostly on how good or bad the focus trees are (some countries are better with the original generic tree then their dlc ones). About politics, it is more boring then bad really; blue are the “democratics” countries, browns is the "fascist countries, red is the “communists” countries, and grey are the “neutral” countries, the first three are self explanatory, but the neutral ones sucks because of how bland it is, neutral can go from the KMT, to monarchys, to anarchism, to dictatorships, to chinese cliques, and its so annoying how little thought its but into it. Even the three actual ideologies are bland, democratic countries sucks ass, fascists are the ones you play when you want to win fast, and communists are for when you want to be based. The mods makes politics a lot better because there is actual nuance, even if its from an liberal mind, instead of the blandness of the vanilla game.
They took out all the good parts of HoI out of the game, then slowly started re-adding them in paid DLCs lmao
I hate Paradox’s DLC model so much
Thats why the only right way to play their games is too pirate the dlcs.
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Literally just go to rutracker or cs.rin.ru and use a site translator browser addon, the only pirate forums that’s not a den of malware and aids are all russian sites.
Same with CK3.
“Yeah, we took most of the CK2 mechanics out, but we’ll bring them back in paid DLCs that we’ll make for next decade lmao”
Most mechanics they took out were outright trash. Mostly because they were cash grabs disconnected from one another in an quick $ effort and then abandoned to flaunt on the wind, but still. CK3 seems to integrate mechanics way better, but it will still be 10 years since their pace of development is significantly slower than any previous PDX game.
EU4? whats that? And yeah, I just find ww2 to just be more interesting on a personal level
Europa Universalis IV, another grand strategy game from Paradox, spanning the 1444 - 1821 time period
ooooo, I like that
Its an more older and bigger paradox game focused on the time between the renaissence till the napoleonic era. Its an more complicated, longer, dlc dependent, diverse and detailed game then HOI4 (if you have the dlcs, it sucks ass without them, but its very good with them, so pirate life for the win) but its a lot less casual then hoi4, while HOI4 have an very basic time of an medium of 7 to 9 years for run, EU4 can go to the 200/300.
Interesting to note that a lot of the bigger mods re-add in a sort of economy (usually centred around national debt)