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Recently we have seen anti-patriotic ‘socialists’ refer to ‘patriotic socialism’ as if it is a separate distinct ideology. However this is a farce, the truth is that there is no socialism that is not patriotic. Just as in the same way we see people identify as ‘democratic socialists’ despite there being no socialism that is anti-democratic. What is real is socialist patriotism, which is a core socialist value.

It is obvious to Communists all over the world throughout history and to this day that to be a Communist is inextricably linked with Patriotism for one’s people, one’s country, one’s culture and the progressive history of those who have come before them and struggled for a better world.

With this compilation of quotes I have very decisively shown this.

Here is a general outline of other resources on this topic.

To any self-declared ‘Communist’ who sees this and still holds an anti-patriotic line you either are oblivious to reality and our history or else you are a federal agent. Either way you should be treated as a subverter who does not want us to win. The feds spent almost the entire 20th Century trying to smear us Communists as Un-American with McCarthyism and now you want to fall in line with and pigeon-hole yourself into their caricature of us? Taking a national nihilist stance would effectively snooker us from having any chance at reaching the masses.

It is clear that the pro-patriotism side of the argument are right to any Communist outside of America and the anti-patriots have no ground to stand on except with strawmen such as patriots supporting imperialism despite Communists being the most anti-imperialist or it not being compatible with the national question when Communists have always advocated for the self-determination of native peoples.

From an outside perspective it reflects very badly on American Communists that this was even a debate. It shows the infantile nature and petty bourgeois radicalism present within Communist circles in the United States and shows that a lot of work has to be done towards building a mass party which can win over the working masses and take power. The rest of the world needs American Communists to take power, the boot of American imperialism can only be freed from the neck of the world when the Communist party wins the hearts and minds of the masses and from there victory can only be assured. However this can never happen while you dismiss the masses as ‘reactionary’ and ‘settlers’ or refer to the landmass that is materially known to millions of people as America, as ‘Turtle Island’.

If you are not patriotic for something you are not a Communist. You are liberal with a red mask who has a calvinistic depraved moralistic worldview. Now it is understandable if Native American or Black people don’t support the American flag, but the vast vast majority of Americans identify strongly with the American flag and Communists support the self determination of Native American tribes as per the National Question as well as for the Black Belt if they so please.

There is no contradiction between patriotism and support of the national question and the nationalism of the oppressed. There is no contradiction between patriotism and internationalism. There is no contradiction between patriotism and anti-imperialism in fact anti-imperialists are the only real patriots. Revolutionary defeatism is the manifestation of patriotism Communists must take in America as the wars of aggression are hurting the people of the world and neither are they helping the American people, they are enriching a few parasites at the expense of the rest of the world. Us Marxist-Leninists want our paper tiger, reactionary, imperialist government to lose and we want its enemies to win, we also do anti-war action (and expose the truth) in the imperial core better than the so called Third-Worldists (who out of infantilism reject American workers). We do this while building up a revolutionary movement as we are actually genuine. Finally to state the obvious there is no contradiction between Communists and patriotism, in fact Communism is the most true expression of Patriotism and love for one’s own people.

The reason the patriotism debate is so important is because we defend China and other anti-imperialist states.

The U.S. is doing everything it can to demonise these states to the public because they know they are losing, it is because of this that in the coming years as we get out to the masses more and more that they will call Communists ‘Un-American’ for supporting anti-imperialist states. This is the reason that the feds are working overtime to make sure that the anti-patriotism side of the debate gets pushed as much as possible and it is because of this that we must distinguish ourselves from the slime and show how we are patriotic for the people and want to improve things and show how this is in no way contradictory to supporting anti-imperialist states. We cannot let the ruling class own the flag and let super-patriotism (jingoism and chauvinism, as opposed to proletarian patriotism), as Michael Parenti called it, dominate. We must desire to improve the conditions of the working masses and we must not let the ruling class control the narratives whether it be on what patriotism is or whether it is lies about anti-imperialist states.

To conclude, it is clear this should never have been a debate in the first place and now that this line has convincely won out it is clear that Americans must join the CPUSA and work towards improving it and building it into a mass party which can win over the masses. This is what the world needs the most!

  • @Azirahael@lemmygrad.ml
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    22 years ago

    This is telling, esp the comments.

    There are two strains at work here.

    The Exclusionary: ‘If it’s not pure enough, get rid of it/them!’

    And the inclusive: ‘Sure, not all perfect. This and This are bad, but this other part is great! We should do that part, and not the bad parts.’

    This shows up in things like Lincoln, and modern Russia.

    “Sure, lincoln owned slaves and was racist. So was damn near everyone. But he was progresssive for his time, improved the lives of the working class, and did these good things. So we should uphold him as generally one of the good bits of our history.”

    "Sure, Russia is capitalist now. But they are a strong anti-imperialist force, and worth supporting for all the good they do, even if they are not communists.’

    vs:

    “Lincoln owned slaves. He was a racist white guy. Fuck him.”

    “Russia is capitalist, imperialist, not communist. Fuck them.”

    One of these two approaches builds, one tears down. You can guess which will win.