• mlg@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      6 hours ago

      No but blindly vote blue

      Trump would be worse than the 20 billion dollars of pre approved bombs I can assure you

      No such thing as a bad Democrat candidate amirite

    • Dr. Bob@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      24
      arrow-down
      12
      ·
      7 hours ago

      Just bewilderment. Because snubbing Harris will get you Trump. Who’s a great friend to Gaza /s. So cui bono?

      • Cowbee [he/him]
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        25
        arrow-down
        10
        ·
        7 hours ago

        Both are genocidal, letting the DNC get away with genocide solidifies their position. That’s the logic, that the DNC can get away with literal genocide as long as they aren’t the GOP, and in the eyes of Liberals, that’s correct.

        • fubo@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          arrow-down
          20
          ·
          edit-2
          6 hours ago

          You’re currently a Trump supporter. If you don’t want to be one, you can stop.

          • Alsephina
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            13
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            4 hours ago

            You’re currently a genocidal pig supporter. If you don’t want to be one, you can stop.

          • PolandIsAStateOfMind
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            15
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            6 hours ago

            Everyone who is not with us, is against us. Traditional (lack of) logic of fanatics.

          • Cowbee [he/him]
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            17
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            edit-2
            6 hours ago

            Nah, fuck Trump. The only way I could be seen as a Trump supporter is if you think voting for genocide should be the default.

            You’re currently batting for genocide, imperialism, climate collapse, and World War 3, but you can stop.

            • fubo@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              11
              ·
              6 hours ago

              The first-past-the-post voting system sucks; the resulting two-party system sucks; but right now we have to operate within it. The mathematics of that system entail the simple fact that if you discourage people from keeping Trump out, you are helping get Trump in. That makes you a Trump supporter.

              • GarbageShootAlt2
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                5
                ·
                3 hours ago

                The first-past-the-post voting system sucks; the resulting two-party system sucks; but

                The hand-wringing isn’t the worst part, but it’s definitely the most annoying. “Don’t worry, I’m disavowing Harris while I vote for her in my non-swing-state, so it doesn’t count even as she uses those votes to claim legitimacy just like Biden did”.

              • Cowbee [he/him]
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                12
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                6 hours ago

                The first-past-the-post voting system sucks; the resulting two-party system sucks; but right now we have to operate within it

                Only if you think voting is the extent of political action.

                The mathematics of that system entail the simple fact that if you discourage people from keeping Trump out, you are helping get Trump in

                And if you encourage getting Harris in, you are helping Harris get in, who has promised imperalism, genocide, World War 3, and failed Climate action.

                That makes you a Trump supporter.

                In 20 years you’ll look back at yourself, if leftists have managed to prevent the end of the world, as someone who supported a fascist regime and refused to lift a finger against it. I hope you’ll come to your senses much sooner than that.

                  • تحريرها كلها ممكن
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    6
                    ·
                    3 hours ago

                    “Both sides are just as bad!” is the bullshit that got us the George W. Bush administration and the Iraq War.

                    Yet Obama did nothing to hold Bush Jr and his administration accountable for their crimes

                  • GarbageShootAlt2
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    3
                    ·
                    3 hours ago

                    “Both sides are just as bad!” is the bullshit

                    It’s not that they are identical, it’s that delineating between the Hitlerites and the Strasserites just isn’t very meaningful compared to the understanding that they are wings of the same monstrous entity that needs to be destroyed. You don’t even need to Obamas embracing Bush and saying “same values” to see that, but seeing that makes denial inexcusable.

                  • Cowbee [he/him]
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    8
                    ·
                    5 hours ago

                    I am taking the moral route and telling you to abandon the genocidal empire, both parties are monstrous and we either need to vote them out or revolt.

      • تحريرها كلها ممكن
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        7 hours ago

        Both hate Arabs and Muslims, Trump is just honest about it. Both support Israel unconditionally, the reality on the ground will be exactly the same, only the rhetoric will change.